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the solution of Allah when war happened between two muslims parties

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Its evident you don't know any fiqh on this topic.

Fortunately, we can't interpret Islam with "I think".

Sometimes i use "I think" because i don't know the right decision of Allah .

so Allah knows best , so you or me don't know more than Allah .

there is many different opinions of scholars , so we need to use sometimes "I think" and "Allah knows best " .
 

dynavert2012

Active Member
if some one insult some Sahaba or make sin , or Monafiq
that's between him and Allah ,He would forgive him or punish him , so you have no obligation on him .

so why Allah ask us to fight them? O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. 9:37
it's NOT easy to call someone Kafir , especialy when he did Shahada .
it depends on your knowledge

So takfiriyin they judge the people instead of God.

the prophet did and hios companions did too, if they are takfiryin, so i'm following them

I remember recently in 1970s most of Algerians and tunisians and Morocains went to to visit tombs and worship Allah and the Wali Salih , that definitly forbiden and Shirk , so the imams invent them to the right way , Alhamdu illah this way of thinking/belief is gone , and most of the people back to the straight way .

so if the takfiriyin existed in Algeria in that time , they would kill 16 millions Algerians ?

i'm totally agree with what you said happened in 1970 and this is how i see we should do dawa, and so these imams believed that these ppl are doing kufr and sherk and so we advice them and so i do, i believe alawists doing sherk too and if they died like that they will die on sherk and so i;ll advice them and i'll not fight them unless they start to fight me or force me to do like them
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
so why Allah ask us to fight them? O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. 9:37
what you mean by post this verse of Quran
my thread it's about what happened in Syria and Iraq ,takfiriyin called it Jihad . .

it depends on your knowledge
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) sometimes when he don't know judge back and ask Allah .


the prophet did and hios companions did too, if they are takfiryin, so i'm following them
I said before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was refer to Allah when he get doubt in something , so he told them " I don't know , wait until i ask Allah "

In opening of Maka , Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told the Mushrekeen you are free , and save .

and He made peace between two tribes .







i'm totally agree with what you said happened in 1970 and this is how i see we should do dawa, and so these imams believed that these ppl are doing kufr and sherk and so we advice them and so i do, i believe alawists doing sherk too and if they died like that they will die on sherk and so i;ll advice them and i'll not fight them unless they start to fight me or force me to do like them
Good that you think that way
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
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btw , i don't think or believe that Alawists are worship Ali (pbuh) as Allah .
that's surely exagerate .

so IF realy they do Shirek , instead of calling Jihad against them or any other beliefs , we pray for them , Allah guide them and us to straight way , Ameen .
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
3-102

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nd hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. And remember Allah's favour unto you: how ye were enemies and He made friendship between your hearts so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations unto you, that haply ye may be guided, (103)
And there may spring from you a nation who invite to goodness, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency. Such are they who are successful. (104) [/size][SIZE=2.2]And be ye not as those who separated and disputed after the clear proofs had come unto them. For such there is an awful doom, (105)

(١٠٢) [وَٱعۡتَصِمُواْ بِحَبۡلِ ٱللَّهِ جَمِيعً۬ا وَلَا تَفَرَّقُواْ*ۚ وَٱذۡكُرُواْ نِعۡمَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيۡكُمۡ إِذۡ كُنتُمۡ أَعۡدَآءً۬ فَأَلَّفَ بَيۡنَ قُلُوبِكُمۡ فَأَصۡبَحۡتُم بِنِعۡمَتِهِۦۤ إِخۡوَٲنً۬ا وَكُنتُمۡ عَلَىٰ شَفَا حُفۡرَةٍ۬ مِّنَ ٱلنَّارِ فَأَنقَذَكُم مِّنۡہَا*ۗ كَذَٲلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمۡ ءَايَـٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَہۡتَدُونَ (١٠٣) وَلۡتَكُن مِّنكُمۡ أُمَّةٌ۬ يَدۡعُونَ إِلَى ٱلۡخَيۡرِ وَيَأۡمُرُونَ بِٱلۡمَعۡرُوفِ وَيَنۡهَوۡنَ عَنِ ٱلۡمُنكَرِ*ۚ وَأُوْلَـٰٓٮِٕكَ هُمُ ٱلۡمُفۡلِحُونَ (١٠٤) وَلَا تَكُونُواْ كَٱلَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَٱخۡتَلَفُواْ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ ٱلۡبَيِّنَـٰتُ*ۚ وَأُوْلَـٰٓٮِٕكَ لَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ۬ (١٠٥)
 
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