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The Status of Jesus in Islam

Mobkem

Member
Muslims believe, that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of God that he was the Christ, that he was born miraculously without any male intervention (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today), that he gave life to the dead by God's permission and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. In fact, no Muslim is a Muslim if he or she does not believe in Jesus!


What will also surprise the christians is the fact that the Muslim does not take the holy name of Jesus, in his own language, without saying Eesa, alaihi assalam ("Jesus, peace be upon him").

Mention in the Quran


And that in the Holy Quran Jesus is mentioned twenty five times.
For example:
"We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear signs and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit" The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2,Verse 87
"O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary..." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 3, Verse 45
"...Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of god..." The Holy Qur'an ,Chapter 4,Verse 171
"...And in their foot steps we sent Jesus the son of Mary..." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 5, Verse 46
"And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 6, Verse 85

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Though Jesus is mentioned by name in twenty-five places in the Holy Quran, he is also addressed with respect as: Ibn Maryam, meaning "The son of Mary"; and as the Maseeh (in Hebrew it is the Messiah), which is translated as "Christ". He is also known as Abdullah, "The servant of Allah"; and as Rasul u Allah, the messenger of Allah. He is spoken of as "The Word of God", as "The Spirit of God", as a "Sign of God", and numerous other epithets of honor spread over fifteen different chapters. The Holy Quran honors this mighty messenger of God, and the Muslims have not fallen short over the past fourteen hundred years in doing the same. There is not a single disparaging remark in the entire Quran.

Eesa or Jesus?


The Holy Quran refers to Jesus as Eesa. Actually, his proper name was Eesa (Arabic), or Esau (Hebrew); classical Yeheshua, which the Christian nations of the West latinised as Jesus. Neither the "J" nor the second "s" in the name Jesus is to be found in the original tongue - they are not found in the Semitic languages. The word is very simply "E S A U" a very common Jewish name, used more than sixty times in the very first booklet alone of the Bible, in the part called "Genesis".

Mary Honored


The birth of Jesus Christ is described in two places of the Quran - chapter 3 and chapter 19. Reading from the beginning of his birth, we come across the story of Mary, and the esteemed position which she occupies in the House of Islam, before the actual annunciation of the birth of Jesus is given:
"'Behold'! the angels said: 'O Mary! God hath chosen thee and purified thee, and chosen thee above the women of all nations" The Holy Qur'an ,Chapter 3,Verse 42
"Chosen thee above the women of all nations." Such an honor is not to be found given to Mary even in the Christian Bible! The verse continues:
"O Mary! Worship thy Lord devoutly: prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 3,Verse 43
There is a Chapter in the Holy Quran, named Surat u Maryam, (Chapter 19) "Chapter Mary", named in honor of Mary the mother of Jesus Christ, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him; again, such an honor is not to be found given to Mary in the Christian Bible. Out of the 66 books of the Protestants and 73 of the Roman Catholics, not one is named after Mary or her son. You will find books named after Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul and two score more obscure names, but not a single one is that of Mary!
If Muhammed, salla Allah u alihi wa sallam, was the author of the Holy Quran, then he would not have failed to include in it with Mary, the mother of Jesus, his own mother Aamina, his dear wife Khadija, or his beloved daughter Fatima. But No! No! This can never be. The Quran is not his handiwork!.

Divine Revelation


What is the source of this beautiful and sublime recitation which, in its original Arabic, moves men to ecstasy and tears? verse 44 below explains:
"This is part of the tidings, of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Muhammad!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point)." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 3, Verse 44
So neither Muhammad, the unlettered prophet nor his followers were aware of such tremendous and truthful information concerning all of the messengers, Mary, her mother, Zachariah and those who disputed with him regarding who would care for Mary. Nor were they aware of Zachariah winning charge of her after he had drawn lots with pens with his opponents. They did not know how Zachariah welcomed her and of who used to bring sustenance from God as a gift to her, which led Zachariah inspite of his old age and the barrenness of his wife to ask God to grant him righteous offspring. Neither Muhammad nor his followers were aware of this previously. It is not possible that you will be able to find such speech bearing the highest level of splendor and eloquence and which is nicely phrased and magnificiently presented in the Gospels or anywhere else. This shows that Prophet Muhammad did not speak of his own whims, but rather that it was revelation revealed to him by the Lord of all creations.

Miraculous Birth and absolving of Virgin Mary from slander



"Then We sent to her Our spirit, and he appeared before her in a form of a man in all respects." This refers to angel Gabriel. So at the time this (miraculous) event took place, this pure and chaste woman had set out to devote herself to worshipping God, and she had placed a screen in front of her for this purpose in order to protect her honor and chastity and so that she can establish her worship. Then lo and behold, a human that was well-proportioned in his form and beauty suddenly appeared before her. So she demonstrated the signs of her chastity and modesty in this instance, saying: "Verily, I seek refuge in the Most Gracious (Allaah) from you, if you do fear Allaah." Then the noble messenger Gabriel gave her news that caused her fear to be removed and her heart to find tranquility: "I am only a messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son." So she replied in amazement: "How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste ?" So the angel informed her: "So it will be. Your Lord said: 'That it is easy for Me. And We wish to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us.'"
So this spirit blew (the life of Jesus) into her. So she conceived Jesus, and withdrew with the baby in her womb to a far away place. There she gave birth to her child and was faced with the problem that any chaste and honorable woman like her would feel, so she wished she was dead. Then there came that removed her fear and anxiety: "(The baby Jesus) cried out to her from below her, saying" 'Grieve not, your Lord has provided a water stream under you.'"
These were the signs and miracles that increased her reliance, tranquility and faith in the fact that God would protect her, demonstrate that she was free from any claims of fornication, and manifest her honor and nobility. So all she needed to do was to point to this infant that the slanderes used as a means to accuse her of fornication. This child said from the cradle: "Verily, I am a slave of Allaah. He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet. And He has made me blessed wherever I may be. And He has enjoined on me prayer and giving of charity for as long as i live. And (He has enjoined me) to be dutiful to my mother, and He has not made to be arrogant and wretched. And peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I shall die, and the day I will be raised alive."

.... Adam also was born miraculously


Does the miraculous birth of Jesus make him a God or a "begotten" son of God? No! says the Holy Quran:
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah (God) is that of Adam; He created him from dust then said to him: 'Be', and he was." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 3,Verse 59
If being born without a male parent entitles Jesus to being equated with God, then, Adam would have a greater right to such honor.

There are supplement

The True Call - ISLAM - The Status of Jesus in Islam
 

kai

ragamuffin
Yes indeed Islam totally negates Christianity, to submit to Islam means you reject the notion of jseus being the son of god , the trinity , salvation through Jesus. etc etc etc , Isa is a prophet.

In my view and historically speaking it would be hard to revert Christians to a religion that totally denied the existence of Jesus.They are a pretty stubborn lot so Islam assimilated Jesus and declares the Injil or the true new testament to be lost.


A stroke of genious.
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
...The Holy Quran refers to Jesus as Eesa. Actually, his proper name was Eesa (Arabic), or Esau (Hebrew); classical Yeheshua, which the Christian nations of the West latinised as Jesus. Neither the "J" nor the second "s" in the name Jesus is to be found in the original tongue - they are not found in the Semitic languages. The word is very simply "E S A U" a very common Jewish name, used more than sixty times in the very first booklet alone of the Bible, in the part called "Genesis"...

Esau is not a common Jewish name, but Yeheshua... Joshua in English, is. I guess it's all a matter of language. To Messianic Jews, his name is commonly known as Yeshua. I must say that there is little difference between what I believe about Yeshua and what Muslims believe about Yeshua. Odd, is it not?

So I wonder what Muslims make of the Sermon on the Mount? In their view, what was Yeshua saying?
 
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Fatihah

Well-Known Member
Esau is not a common Jewish name, but Yeheshua... Joshua in English, is. I guess it's all a matter of language. To Messianic Jews, his name is commonly known as Yeshua. I must say that there is little difference between what I believe about Yeshua and what Muslims believe about Yeshua. Odd, is it not?

So I wonder what Muslims make of the Sermon on the Mount? In their view, what was Yeshua saying?

Response: In all actuality, it is not odd or shocking even for us muslims to have similarities in our religious practice and teachings as the jews do, for the qur'an teaches us that the principle teachings of Moses and all other jewish prophets were no different than Muhammad's and that Muhammad(saw) is the last and final prophet of Allah swt(God).

I don't see anything objectionable about the sermon on the mount. Jesus(aas) was merely trying to guide the people from their old and evil practices. For they had taken the law to the extreme. So in an effort to develop a stronger sense of compassion between the people, he taught a different approach in order to guide them back to the law. This is why he says things like, "it's been said to you of old times....but I say unto you". Yet he also says, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets, I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill".
 

ghostseraph

New Member
I am a christian
and i tell you all this one whom the generations of men call Jesus the Christ is the "Son" of "god" - every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess it before he whose name has never been utterred under the great heavens-
 

Ba'al

Active Member
Muslims believe, that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of God that he was the Christ, that he was born miraculously without any male intervention (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today), that he gave life to the dead by God's permission and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. In fact, no Muslim is a Muslim if he or she does not believe in Jesus!


Ahmed Deedat. Word for word.
 

Mobkem

Member
Crucified??


Contrary to Christian beliefs, Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified, but rather that someone else was made to resemble him and crucified instead of him. The Qur'an states that he was raised up to the heavens where he will await until the day when he will be sent back to earth towards the end of time. Allah says: "And because of their (Jews) saying boastfully: 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, Messenger of God.' But they killed him not nor did they crucify him, but rather the resemblance of Jesus was put in another man (and they killed that man). And those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge; they follow nothing but conjecture, for surely they killed him not. Rather, Allah raised him up (body and soul) unto Himself. And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, Most Wise. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (i.e. Jews and Christians), except that he will surely believe in Him (that he was really a messenger of God) before his (Jesus') death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 4,Verse 157-159

Descent of Jesus, Son of Mary


Jesus, son of Mary will be returning to this world before the Day of Resurrection. He will return to become a leader of the Muslim nation.
"And he (Jesus, son of Mary) shall be known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allah) This is the Straight Path (of Islamic Monotheism, leading to Allah and to His Paradise)." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 43,Verse 61
The Prophet Muhammad has prophesised that Jesus will return and judge mankind with justice. He will descend by the white minaretin the east of Damascus, placing his hands upon the wings of two angels, and will fight against the Antichrist (Dajjaal) until he reaches the gate of Ludd (present-day Israel), where he will kill him.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Jesus, son of Mary will be returning to this world before the Day of Resurrection. He will return to become a leader of the Muslim nation.
"And he (Jesus, son of Mary) shall be known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allah) This is the Straight Path (of Islamic Monotheism, leading to Allah and to His Paradise)." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 43,Verse 61
The Prophet Muhammad has prophesised that Jesus will return and judge mankind with justice. He will descend by the white minaretin the east of Damascus, placing his hands upon the wings of two angels, and will fight against the Antichrist (Dajjaal) until he reaches the gate of Ludd (present-day Israel), where he will kill him.
That sounds so very reasonable, doesn't it? Almost as good as the Christian Rapture. Obviously, if someone claims to be Christ and does not do exactly this, that person will be denounced by Muslims all over the world. No doubt they will also be gravely offended.
 

kai

ragamuffin
How can it be the same guy? one died one didnt ,ones the son of god one isnt , ones jewish the others a muslim.

there's a very slim chance they might be talking about the same guy but somehow the essence of the person has changed so much that they are now perceiving two totally different personas.

Muslims take Mohammed as the most perfect man who ever lived, as a model to imitate, while Christians give this honour to Their Jesus. to submit to Islam is to negate the very reason for Jesus's birth , life and resurrection.

and to be a Christian is to deny Mohamed as the final prophet and the Quran as the unalterable word of God, in short you cant have it both ways.
 
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Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
I don't see anything objectionable about the sermon on the mount. Jesus(aas) was merely trying to guide the people from their old and evil practices. For they had taken the law to the extreme. So in an effort to develop a stronger sense of compassion between the people, he taught a different approach in order to guide them back to the law. This is why he says things like, "it's been said to you of old times....but I say unto you". Yet he also says, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets, I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill".

Indeed! The theme if the Sermon on the Mount is to refocus on the intent (Kevanna, in Hebrew) of the Laws... He asks, "where is your heart?"

What do you make of the plea to love your enemies? Is this possible for humans to do, or is it just a goal to aim for? I have never seen this actually put into practice (though I do try). Yeshua asks us to be perfect, but is this too much?
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Crucified??


Contrary to Christian beliefs, Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified, but rather that someone else was made to resemble him and crucified instead of him. The Qur'an states that he was raised up to the heavens where he will await until the day when he will be sent back to earth towards the end of time. Allah says: "And because of their (Jews) saying boastfully: 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, Messenger of God.' But they killed him not nor did they crucify him, but rather the resemblance of Jesus was put in another man (and they killed that man). And those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge; they follow nothing but conjecture, for surely they killed him not. Rather, Allah raised him up (body and soul) unto Himself. And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, Most Wise. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (i.e. Jews and Christians), except that he will surely believe in Him (that he was really a messenger of God) before his (Jesus') death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 4,Verse 157-159

Descent of Jesus, Son of Mary


Jesus, son of Mary will be returning to this world before the Day of Resurrection. He will return to become a leader of the Muslim nation.
"And he (Jesus, son of Mary) shall be known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allah) This is the Straight Path (of Islamic Monotheism, leading to Allah and to His Paradise)." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 43,Verse 61
The Prophet Muhammad has prophesised that Jesus will return and judge mankind with justice. He will descend by the white minaretin the east of Damascus, placing his hands upon the wings of two angels, and will fight against the Antichrist (Dajjaal) until he reaches the gate of Ludd (present-day Israel), where he will kill him.

Thanks for the info but I think most Christians are aware of this falsehood.
 

Fatihah

Well-Known Member
Indeed! The theme if the Sermon on the Mount is to refocus on the intent (Kevanna, in Hebrew) of the Laws... He asks, "where is your heart?"

What do you make of the plea to love your enemies? Is this possible for humans to do, or is it just a goal to aim for? I have never seen this actually put into practice (though I do try). Yeshua asks us to be perfect, but is this too much?

Response: I would have to say that when Jesus(as) says to love your enemies, he is merely saying to show some compassion. In other words, if an enemy is not showing any agression towards you, then you should show none to them. If an enemy refrains from attacking you, then you should not attack them. By doing so, you are showing compassion, and this is what Jesus meant by saying, "love your enemies". Many will take it to mean that Jesus is saying that we should never fight or defend ourselves. That no matter what a person does to you, you should forgive them. Such a teaching is merely impossible for anyone to do and basically goes against human nature. For if someone harmed your child, you would not turn around and love them in return. However, if one shows sympathy and compassion towards hurting your child and repents, then you should not hold any grudges. You should forgive, because they were sincere in their apology. This is what is meant by "love your enemies". If the enemy is remorseful and repents, then we should love them in return, and not insist on being their enemy.
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
Response: I would have to say that when Jesus(as) says to love your enemies, he is merely saying to show some compassion. In other words, if an enemy is not showing any agression towards you, then you should show none to them. If an enemy refrains from attacking you, then you should not attack them. By doing so, you are showing compassion, and this is what Jesus meant by saying, "love your enemies". Many will take it to mean that Jesus is saying that we should never fight or defend ourselves. That no matter what a person does to you, you should forgive them. Such a teaching is merely impossible for anyone to do and basically goes against human nature. For if someone harmed your child, you would not turn around and love them in return. However, if one shows sympathy and compassion towards hurting your child and repents, then you should not hold any grudges. You should forgive, because they were sincere in their apology. This is what is meant by "love your enemies". If the enemy is remorseful and repents, then we should love them in return, and not insist on being their enemy.

Yes, that is pretty much how I see it too. It depends on the situation. Insult to one's pride, as a personal enemy might do, one should 'turn the cheek' and not seek revenge, as one should see the image of G-d even in your enemy. One should be happy to forgive a sincere repentance. But a more serious attack one must defend oneself.
 
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