The Story of Job- God's Bet With the Devil

[sandy whitelinger]

this is where your wrong

Im not making definate conclusions, I personaly dont think the bible was a non fictional conclusion.

Im now asking you for sources and information to back your side of this debate?

show me, im open to change

By the way, since this has pretty much nothing to do with the meaning of Job, could we move this boredom to another thread?

 

[outhouse]

By the way, since this has pretty much nothing to do with the meaning of Job, could we move this boredom to another thread?

it has everything to do with this fable

im demonstrating not to take this fable literally as many are doing because its one of many fables or fiction, in my opinion.

show me, im open to change.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

show me, im open to change.

You obviously missed my reply. I moved this bunny trail here

 

[smokydot]

i believe it was YOU that said that the story of job was "symbolic".
your words "Why would I assume the Word of God written does not mean what it says?"

I would have said it was a type, a pattern for Jesus, which in no way denotes the text is not literal.
The Scriptures which serve as types or patterns are literal.

 

[sniper762]

it wasn't you..........someone else...........sorry

 

[Betho_br]

Job desired to be "tsadyq" (Hebrew text), while the Septuagint translates it as "dikaios," meaning "just" or "righteous." But if it was his desire, why is it written in the first verse of the Septuagint that Job was already "dikaios" (just or righteous)? More precisely, why did the writer of the Septuagint not interpret the Hebrew term "veyashar" in the first verse as the better translation "upright," choosing instead "just" or "righteous" ("dikaios") in Greek?

What is the difference between "veyashar" and "tsadyq"?

 

[Kamusta43]

What do you guys think of the story of Job? An amazing test of faith or God's bet with the Devil? Here is the Wiki link. These two links: History of St. Job and Story of Job are easier to read.

In essence, God and the Devil have a discussion about Job, a most pious man. The Devil tells God, "sure, he's pious because he has it so good."
"Oh yeah?" retorts God, "I'll take away every earthly thing that is important to him including his family and you'll see, he's devoted!" In the end Job stands up to the challenge and God rewards him with a huge heard of livestock and more kids to replace the ones that got killed.

I wonder what would have happened to Job if he had lost faith? The question might be what is the symbolism of this kind of devotion? Should you love God because:

1) He's a good guy who knows what's best for you even though he might torment the hell out of you?
2) He controls your destiny so comply or else?
3) It's just a story designed to emphasis that faith will be rewarded?

I vote for No.3. An even better question, is it truly possible to love someone who holds dominion over your life and demands compliance or else? A worthy God would demand nothing, but allow his children to better themselves and possibly help them along the way, no strings attached.

Side note: 1) God and the Devil have little chats? 2) If God controls everything in existence, then the Devil exists because God created the Devil and must have a use for the Devil. What use would that be, tempting us?

God allowed Job to suffer to clear up a misconception. At that time, it was believed that God always blesses those who serve him, but God doesn't always bless his people with temporal things. He allows one to suffer for many reasons. It could be to strengthen that person's faith. He might want the individual to rely on him more fully. God uses suffering to encourage others.