The Taliban Prison break!

[Rakhel]

Why what?

 

[Bismillah]

And I am talking about the Taliban's position. They believe they are freedom fighters trying to rid their country of the oppressors that have taken over their country.

For your correction that are hundreds of various sects in Taliban that often fight against each other, your quote concerns the Afghani Taliban.

 

[Rakhel]

And, again, I say

And? Do you think the Taliban's position on the matter has changed much in 10 years?

 

[Chisti]

Why what?

Why do they make such claims?

 

[Rakhel]

Why do they make such claims?

For the same reason any other freedom fighter would make such claims. For the same reason you.disagree with Indian independence. For the same reason Al-Qaeda makes such claims. Or Fatah or Hamas, or the fighters in Columbia or Libya or Yemen and Bahrain, or the Israeli settlers in the West Bank.

They fully believe their livelihood is in danger and they are fighting for their survival.

 

[Bismillah]

Unity among North Waziristan militant groups crumbles | | DAWN.COM

 

[Bismillah]

They fully believe their livelihood is in danger and they are fighting for their survival.

I don't think that is why people colonise the West Bank....but whatever.

 

[Rakhel]

Not that you'd care

Nine Narrow Miles

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YouTube - Nine Narrow Miles, Part 2

 

[Bismillah]

I don't watch too many youtube videos, but I think you were talking about colonists I don't think they are the type that are even required for IDF draft or care about any military importance. Of course this belongs in another topic.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

But, but, but... they are nothing more than freedom fighters trying to rid their country of the awful oppressors.....

Oh come on. This is just rhetoric, with no substance. To equate the Taliban to Fatah is ludicrous. Both may have their flaws, but it should be unnecessary for me to list all the oppressive, brutal actions that set the Taliban far, far apart from Fatah. That is why the U.S. and Britain, with Israel's blessing, have been actively training Fatah security forces.

 

[kai]

Oh come on. This is just rhetoric, with no substance. To equate the Taliban to Fatah is ludicrous. Both may have their flaws, but it should be unnecessary for me to list all the oppressive, brutal actions that set the Taliban far, far apart from Fatah. That is why the U.S. and Britain, with Israel's blessing, have been actively training Fatah security forces.

I agree its a different ball game.

 

[HiddenDjinn]

I agree its a different ball game.

The US trained those who became the Taliban too. There's really little difference between them. Arafat's Fatah hijacked airplanes, and...Al-Qaeda, supported by the Taliban...

 

[Mr Spinkles]

The US trained those who became the Taliban too. There's really little difference between them. Arafat's Fatah hijacked airplanes, and...Al-Qaeda, supported by the Taliban...

Fatah, or affiliated groups, carried out hijackings like 30 years ago. Today they spend their time trying to negotiate a peace settlement. The Taliban OTOH have been butchers every single day of their existence, and very unlike Fatah, they remain so today. Let's make a list of which group, Fatah or the Taliban: cut off women's noses; force the burqa; make the following illegal: dancing, cinema, statues, satellite dishes, music, chess, makeup; forbid women to go to school; force marriages; destroy priceless historical artifacts; etc., etc.

Cheap, cheap rhetoric.....

 

[kai]

Fatah, or affiliated groups, carried out hijackings like 30 years ago. Today they spend their time trying to negotiate a peace settlement. The Taliban OTOH have been butchers every single day of their existence, and very unlike Fatah, they remain so today. Let's make a list of which group, Fatah or the Taliban: cut off women's noses; force the burqa; make the following illegal: dancing, cinema, statues, satellite dishes, music, chess, makeup; forbid women to go to school; force marriages; destroy priceless historical artifacts; etc., etc.

Cheap, cheap rhetoric.....

also the average age of a Taliban fighter is around 18-25 too young to be trained by the US to fight Russians.

 

[Alceste]

Thank you for clarifying spinkles. : ) But this is so interesting how people are SO sure that Taliban are 'the real evil', it is unbelievable! Years long ago, Afghanistan was not brutalized by taliban, it was the war Lords, drug Lords who had the control and spread the whole place with extreme brutality. If , taliban have stopped THOSE brutal people, then that isn't brutal or it is , you think?

Afghani people really have begun to Trust the taliban more than they trust anyone else, their support is ever growing in the region, it is the truth. People,i.e, poor people don't support oppressive brutal blood thirsty hounds, and If you think that the Afghan war which is extending to Pakistan is just a co-incidence, it is wrong. Such wars are planned DECADES ago, and they have motives , which most of us are unable to understand yet. US isn't in Afg because its stuck there, it wants to BE there.

Years ago, before any of this happened, I went to an informal meeting of women with an interest in human rights issues where a woman from Afghanistan spoke to us of the kind of life anybody with the misfortune to be born without a penis could expect in Afghanistan.

She made a lasting impact with her terrible stories of honour killings, hopelessness, suicide, oppression, the ever-expanding suppression of rights freedoms women (and men) had enjoyed under Soviet occupation... The Taliban are evil. They are the scum of the earth - they deserve to rot in their own filth in prison for all the rest of their days. However, I would prefer that this happen after the rigorous exercise of due process (investigation + arrest + presumption of innocence + public trial + evidence = conviction or acquittal) in a nation of laws.

The new US-approved Iraqi government are no better than the Taliban: They throw people in jail indefinitely without due process. IMO, they should throw themselves in after and throw away the key.