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The Top 1% Wealthy

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I don't understand Democrat voters.
I will never understand them.

They vote for the Warlike-Elitist-Circle that wastes billions of dollars on a war...whereas that money could be spent on free healthcare instead.


Democrats don't make sense to me.
That's why they lost.

If they really loved their own Democrat Party, they would kick out all the Military Industrial Complex out of the party.
The money you are talking about would never go to healthcare anyway, the Republicans are against it which they have proven several times.

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Just to give you some numbers, as you can see the US is giving a lot of money.

However, if you do some math and take my country Denmark and we assume we had the same amount of people as in the US, then we would pay 378.5 Billion in comparison to what you are paying now. But also you have to take into account that a lot of the money goes back into the US as a lot of weapons, and equipment are being bought here which benefits the US economy. We have no weapon industry in Denmark at all.

And it is not to blame the US, because I am honestly disappointed that the EU as a whole doesn't as a minimum match the US in financial support at least.

But I think people are being misled regarding how much it actually costs them. because it is big numbers. Just to put it into perspective:

The United States led the ranking of the countries with the highest military spending in 2023, with 916 billion U.S. dollars dedicated to the military.

So you could multiply the 916 billion by two and that is the amount the US is using on their own military, so 75 billion isn't really that much. (Obviously have to take into account that one is euro and the other in dollars, but they are roughly the same)
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I see people all the time saying the 1% doesn't care about the rest.

Have you ever checked to see how many politicians are in the 1%?

Last time I checked around 45 members of congress were in the 1%(I only looked at congress and it was a few years back).

So why would you think the 1% politicians, regardless of their party, care about you?

(Edited to add bold to the United States)

"According to a wealth report by Knight Frank, you would need to be worth $5.8 million or more to be in the top 1% of the United States"


I don't think the politicians actually "care" about the people. But they do care about keeping their jobs and wealth, and in order to do that, they need to propose, support, and/or implement programs designed to maintain stability and political harmony. They have to keep the hoi polloi contented, at least to some degree. They don't have to have any compassion or charity (not that anyone should expect that), but a look at history will show that wise politicians can build up strong, prosperous, and productive countries by making sure that the common people are taken care of adequately.

Countries which refuse to do that...they usually end up in a state of political instability, discord, and even possibly open revolt. Or they might become so weakened that they would end up consumed by another country or end up under the hegemony of a stronger power. A lot of politicians throughout history have had to learn the hard way that, if they don't keep their people happy, they suddenly find the people don't want to fight for them anymore.

In the end, it doesn't really matter how much they have at the very top, just as long as they share some of it with those at the bottom - along with the middle, in order to maintain political stability and harmony. If they refuse to do that, then the consequences are theirs to deal with.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Nope. But when coming off an election where people were talking about US politicians that are for the poor and middle class, why would people believe those 1% politicians actual care about them?
Those with open minds will look at the facts and decide, those with closed minds won't. The majority of voters have just elected Donald Trump, which implies the majority think that choice will be in their best interests.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't understand Democrat voters.
I will never understand them.

They vote for the Warlike-Elitist-Circle that wastes billions of dollars on a war...whereas that money could be spent on free healthcare instead.


Democrats don't make sense to me.
That's why they lost.

If they really loved their own Democrat Party, they would kick out all the Military Industrial Complex out of the party.

I try not to think in terms of actual parties - Democrats, Republicans. I won't say they're exactly the same, but they've both been integral parts within the same political system.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I don’t know that he is.
A strange thing to charge someone with,
he will be exonerated on appeal.

It isn't strange because he literally is:


Harris Is just a very ordinary person,
nowhere near up to the job.
” promoted to the level of her incompetence”

What makes you think that? She has plenty of experience in law and politics. More than Trump did before he became President.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It isn't strange because he literally is:




What makes you think that? She has plenty of experience in law and politics. More than Trump did before he became President.
You didn’t understand what I said was strange.
Do you understand the nature of the charges.

My family controls a lot of real estate. We’d all
be In jail along with everyone else In the business here
if similarly charged.

You are aware of people being railroaded, wrongly convicted,
etc.
Of prosecutors grandstanding.

The fair minded are disinclined to rush to judgement,
the less they know, the more hesitant.
Wait and see convictions vacated on appeal.

As for Harris and law school- my own attendance never had a chance to
start for , well, never mind .
BUT-what I know it Is of utmost importance to attend
the very best law school you can get into.

The LSAT is an extreme test of mental agility and
stamina. If decides who can go where.
And predicts very accurately how well youre
suited to being a lawyer.



Ms Harris attended #82. That’s, well, pathetic.
No serious law firm would remotely consider an
application.

Now, they say, its not what you know, but who you
know.
And what significant politician did she “ know”?

You are aware that lo and many a military or other
person of power and influence has proved crooked,
incompetant. Maybe like the leader my uncle, late of
the Red Guard still worships. Theres thousands and
thousands with way better creds than Harris.
How many would be disasters, we will never know.

Nevrr mind her “ record” thin and fraught as it is, though.

Did you
watch and listen when she speaks?
 
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Heyo

Veteran Member
Does that include the moron you guys just elected to the top job?

I am not sure if he is in to the top 1%, but I know he does not care about anyone but himself.
He surely is in the top 0.1% wealthy, but he isn't (or wasn't for the most time of his life) in the 1% of income. His tax returns (those that we know of) clearly state that.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
You didn’t understand what I said was strange.
Do you understand the nature of the charges.

Yes. They were of falsifying business records.

My family controls a lot of real estate. We’d all
be In jail along with everyone else In the business here
if similarly charged.

Falsifying business records is a standard in real estate?

You are aware of people being railroaded, wrongly convicted,
etc.
Of prosecutors grandstanding.

The fair minded are disinclined to rush to judgement,
the less they know, the more hesitant.
Wait and see convictions vacated on appeal.

As a voter, I am aware of Trump's history and it is not at all shocking he would eventually be convicted of something. The man has been in court thousands of times. You can't stand in the middle of the rails and complain about being railroaded.

As for that case, he was found guilty by a jury of his peers. The statement "he is a convicted felon" is therefore accurate. By itself, it may not mean much since a jury can be corrupt. However much our court system must be blind to the past of a person on trial, our political system ought not be. Trump has a past beyond this one case.

As for Harris and law school- my own attendance never had a chance to
start for , well, never mind .
BUT-what I know it Is of utmost importance to attend
the very best law school you can get into.

The LSAT is an extreme test of mental agility and
stamina. If decides who can go where.
And predicts very accurately how well youre
suited to being a lawyer.



Ms Harris attended #82. That’s, well, pathetic.
No serious law firm would remotely consider an
application.

Can you verify her LSAT score? Regardless of her grade (I am a teacher and am aware of the difference between standardized testing and performance), she passed and was successful enough in law to become an attorney general.

She also did a very good job using mental agility and stamina to absolutely control Trump during the debate.

Now, they say, its not what you know, but who you
know.
And what significant politician did she “ know”?

You are aware that lo and many a military or other
person of power and influence has proved crooked,
incompetant. Maybe like the leader my uncle, late of
the Red Guard still worships. Theres thousands and
thousands with way better creds than Harris.
How many would be disasters, we will never know.

Yes, people in power know other people in power. The same is true for Trump. You don't think Trump has some crookedness in him?

Nevrr mind her “ record” thin and fraught as it is, though.

Yeah? How so?

Did you
watch and listen when she speaks?

Yes. Did you? I also watched and listened to Trump speak. Did you?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
He will be if Trump gives him a job.


Regardless, he's definitely immersed in politics.



He can vow all he wants. He's a politician, afterall! Doesn't change that he's warlike.

-He increased the US nuclear arsenal.
-He created the Space Force, a new branch of the military.
-His drone strike record exceeds all other Presidents.
-He removed Obama era accountability on reporting drone strikes.
-He's the only President to have dropped the "Mother of all Bombs."
-He threatened to blow Iranian cities to smithereens after his assassination attempts, speculating they may have something to do with it.

None of that seems like something a pacifist would do or say.
During Trump's mandate the old continent was creating the foundations for world peace...and since I assume you love us Europeans (or at least, I hope you do), you must also think of our safety and thanks to that extraordinary communicator named Donald Trump, many doors to the paths of peace were opened.

Happy Birthday, by the way. :)
 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Musk is not a politician.

Trump vowed to terminate the ongoing conflicts. That's pacifism.
Light years away from the primitive-warlike approach of the Dems.
He also promised to increase defense budget to record highs. :shrug:

And as for free health care... IF he does anything in the universal health care department, it will be in the exact opposite direction.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
During Trump's mandate the old continent was creating the bases for world peace...and since I assume you love us Europeans (or at least, I hope you do), you must also think of our safety and thanks to that extraordinary communicator named Donald Trump, many doors to the paths of peace were opened.

Happy Birthday, by the way. :)

Thanks for the birthday wish!

I have compassion for all people and my ancestral roots are in Europe.

What exactly was it Trump did to open doors of peace in Europe?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Defense means to support the soldiers economically, so they live.

:facepalm:

Only about 20% of defense budget goes to soldier wages.
The rest is logistics and equipment. You know... bombs, tanks, guns, fighter jets, ammunition, bombs, missiles, artillery,.....................

It doesn't mean to unleash WW3 and to use the soldiers as cannon fodder, as an elitist gang wanted to do.
Like Russia does with its untrained soldiers and North Koreans.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Yes. They were of falsifying business records.



Falsifying business records is a standard in real estate?



As a voter, I am aware of Trump's history and it is not at all shocking he would eventually be convicted of something. The man has been in court thousands of times. You can't stand in the middle of the rails and complain about being railroaded.

As for that case, he was found guilty by a jury of his peers. The statement "he is a convicted felon" is therefore accurate. By itself, it may not mean much since a jury can be corrupt. However much our court system must be blind to the past of a person on trial, our political system ought not be. Trump has a past beyond this one case.



Can you verify her LSAT score? Regardless of her grade (I am a teacher and am aware of the difference between standardized testing and performance), she passed and was successful enough in law to become an attorney general.

She also did a very good job using mental agility and stamina to absolutely control Trump during the debate.



Yes, people in power know other people in power. The same is true for Trump. You don't think Trump has some crookedness in him?



Yeah? How so?



Yes. Did you? I also watched and listened to Trump speak. Did you?
Oh..right. Got my wires crossed.
I was referring to the $464,000,000:fine
in the fraud case.

LSAT score- probably not very good
as good sense is to go to the best school possible.
Your response is unresponsive.

As for the multiple felonies the novel legal
theory applied was about intent to commit
felonies. That is the nature of the case


I will assume you used the word “know”
( people) in a biblical sense.


As for mental agility etc-?
I live thousands of km from your shores
Im not an American caught up in your hyper partisan culture wars
Some things are easier to see when your nose isn’t touching them

From the distance of a few years, or months for
the more agile, Harris can be seen in a more realistic light,
for the thoroughly unexceptional person she is.
 
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Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
I see people all the time saying the 1% doesn't care about the rest.

Have you ever checked to see how many politicians are in the 1%?

Last time I checked around 45 members of congress were in the 1%(I only looked at congress and it was a few years back).

So why would you think the 1% politicians, regardless of their party, care about you?

(Edited to add bold to the United States)

"According to a wealth report by Knight Frank, you would need to be worth $5.8 million or more to be in the top 1% of the United States"

Those politicians in the 1% got there by being a politician. If they care about remaining a politician and being a part of th 1%, they better care about all of their constituents; even those that are not in the 1%.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I see people all the time saying the 1% doesn't care about the rest.

Have you ever checked to see how many politicians are in the 1%?

Last time I checked around 45 members of congress were in the 1%(I only looked at congress and it was a few years back).

So why would you think the 1% politicians, regardless of their party, care about you?

(Edited to add bold to the United States)

"According to a wealth report by Knight Frank, you would need to be worth $5.8 million or more to be in the top 1% of the United States"

When you already have accumulated more money than you can ever spend, then you can check that off your bucket list. Helping others is another challenge on that list. You now plenty of money and influence to make positive changes that help others.

There is Free Mason TV commercial that ran during the election. It is a society of friends, who can express and debate opposing POV, and still remain friends. It is not political, but genuine free speech. There no need to censor and suppress since they are all friends and adults.

In their commercial, they had a person dressed as Benjamin Franklin, who was a Mason, who, to paraphrase, says, it is placed where young men go to learn to achieve their greatness, and when they have become accomplished, they then learn how to give back; student become the mentor. We need more super rich free masons, since they have the correct philosophy; already on their bucket list.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
When you already have accumulated more money than you can ever spend, then you can check that off your bucket list.
Billionaires have very little money, what they have are assets that are worth a lot of money. The idea is to keep as much of your wealth invested in various enterprises as possible so the wealth can grow, and as little of your wealth in cash as possible getting destroyed by inflation
Helping others is another challenge on that list. You now plenty of money and influence to make positive changes that help others.
Actually they are convinced the enterprises they’ve started or are invested in DO help others. Those who started Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon and other such enterprises are convinced they’ve made positive changes that help others.
 
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