The True Pronunciation of YHVH and the Name of Christ

[YoursTrue]

ok.....

when I consider the text I referred to.....
I picture one man in the presence of God
and there has been a lengthy discussion

to the end of which a set of laws has been rendered
and the intent is to deliver the law unto the people

Moses does what is expected of a man
he wants to know the Name

after all.......he knew the house of Pharoah
and the gods that had names

but a name for God does seem lacking
what name could encompass such Existence?

I AM!

and whether it be past ....present ....or future......

It may be, but that is not how the Greek can be understood. Furthermore, on the explanation of the Greek use of the verb, it does not mean never created, always there without beginning. But thanks for your view, because the research helped me to understand more about the Greek and why Jesus did not say he was always existing without beginning.

 

[HolyHolyHolyEvil]

The tetragrammaton YHVH is pronounced Yehovah, “yeh-ho-vah”, and the name of Christ is pronounced Yeshua, “yeh-shoo-ah”, where the name of Yeshua includes the name of Yehovah in his own name in the YE part of the name, in shortened form from the longer version of the name Yehoshua, which is a contraction of two words, Yehovah and yasha, which means, “Yehovah delivers”. Exodus 3:15, Exodus 17:9, 1 Chronicles 24:11.

You can read the full study here The True Pronunciation of YHVH and the Name of Christ | Wisdom of God .

Immanuel is his name. It is also spelled with an E, Emmanuel.

So, he as a bunch of names. Way to confuse people!

As for YHWH is means WHY.

Knowledge is not most high. Understanding is.

You can know something but not understand it. But when you understand something you cannot not know what you understand.

What is the answer to the question why? The answer is because (to cause to be).

There are more details but I'm tired. Might explain more another time.

 

[calm]

As one who is part of a group identified with the name of God in its Anglicized form, I would like to ask an obvious question....

If YHWH is the originator of all language, and it was He who revealed his unique name to Moses (Exodus 3:14-15) the Tanach reveals that his name means "I Will Be". (Not "I Am") It is not a statement of his being but of his intention....to BE whatever he needs to be to accomplish his purpose. (Isaiah 55:11) As any Jew will tell you, it is future tense.

So in any language, (not just Hebrew) YHWH recognizes his own name which, if spoken with due reverence is not too sacred to be uttered. (the Bible writers certainly had no problem with referring to their God by name with almost 7,000 such references)

There are so many languages that translate the divine name into their own way of saying it....none of them is wrong. Logically, a translation is preferable to a transliteration because it retains the meaning, not just the sound of a foreign tongue. It is the meaning of names in the Bible that is important, not how we pronounce them.

Being carried away by pronunciation is IMO a complete distraction from "doing the will of God" which in the final judgement, means more to God and his Christ than how you say his name, or how you view its pronunciation. (Matthew 7:21-23)

Just my 2 cents worth.

You can translate anything, but you can't translate names. No matter to which country you or I travel, our names are not "translated" but accepted as they are.
Who "translates" a name gives the person a new name. And that is wrong. A name is more than just a word, it is something big, it is identity and it is unique.
I believe that you agree with me in your innermost but do not want to admit it. For the thought that one has all these years preached a false name, if not blasphemous name, is unbearable for one.

 

[MikeDwight]

Except its not. I was looking up Jesus Christus seems like the most common pronunciation from Germany,to Lithuania, to Romania, to Greece. Poland. Some bits of interest how Italy does "Christo", spain too I bet. Italy Gisus Cristo. Google Translate, in France and Spain, thinks you're doing the "exclamation", so, it prefers Dios Mio! The Threads whole premise is God isn't going to hear Your language, when Jesus Christ is clearly Greek fluent to mention Hades 4 times. God makes the languages. Jesus Christ probably wasn't insular Jewish like the Jews and you liked him.

Besides that's a generally ignorant comment, although I hate Mike in Spanish Miguel, or French Michelle? So they feminize my name just for being French?

 

[Iymus]

The tetragrammaton YHVH is pronounced Yehovah, “yeh-ho-vah”, and the name of Christ is pronounced Yeshua, “yeh-shoo-ah”, where the name of Yeshua includes the name of Yehovah in his own name in the YE part of the name, in shortened form from the longer version of the name Yehoshua, which is a contraction of two words, Yehovah and yasha, which means, “Yehovah delivers”. Exodus 3:15, Exodus 17:9, 1 Chronicles 24:11.

You can read the full study here The True Pronunciation of YHVH and the Name of Christ | Wisdom of God .

Controversial topic I try to avoid now.

I believe what matters most is intention, meaning and understanding conveyed thru his name.

Father of Existence

 

[YoursTrue]

Except its not. I was looking up Jesus Christus seems like the most common pronunciation from Germany,to Lithuania, to Romania, to Greece. Poland. Some bits of interest how Italy does "Christo", spain too I bet. Italy Gisus Cristo. Google Translate, in France and Spain, thinks you're doing the "exclamation", so, it prefers Dios Mio! The Threads whole premise is God isn't going to hear Your language, when Jesus Christ is clearly Greek fluent to mention Hades 4 times. God makes the languages. Jesus Christ probably wasn't insular Jewish like the Jews and you liked him.

Besides that's a generally ignorant comment, although I hate Mike in Spanish Miguel, or French Michelle? So they feminize my name just for being French?

Some things are feminized anyway, such as talking about a car. It's usually 'she' when referring to it (her...)

 

[YoursTrue]

You can translate anything, but you can't translate names. No matter to which country you or I travel, our names are not "translated" but accepted as they are.
Who "translates" a name gives the person a new name. And that is wrong. A name is more than just a word, it is something big, it is identity and it is unique.
I believe that you agree with me in your innermost but do not want to admit it. For the thought that one has all these years preached a false name, if not blasphemous name, is unbearable for one.

Names can be written in the way a language has. For instance, Diego is written in English Bibles as James, not Diego. What is important is to know what you're talking about.

 

[Iymus]

Names can be written in the way a language has. For instance, Diego is written in English Bibles as James, not Diego. What is important is to know what you're talking about.

I am not aware of anyone that likes their name mispronounced. It seems to show a lack of respect and sincerity in my opinion. The meaning behind the name is most important but that can also be reflected in the pronunciation.

 

[YoursTrue]

I am not aware of anyone that likes their name mispronounced. It seems to show a lack of respect and sincerity in my opinion. The meaning behind the name is most important but that can also be reflected in the pronunciation.

When it comes to literary works, or ancient language pronunciation, it is a different story. God in Hebrew is not pronounced God.

 

[YoursTrue]

I am not aware of anyone that likes their name mispronounced. It seems to show a lack of respect and sincerity in my opinion. The meaning behind the name is most important but that can also be reflected in the pronunciation.

Frankly, I doubt that the person named James in English in the Bible would mind being called Diego in Spanish or James in English.

 

[YoursTrue]

I am not aware of anyone that likes their name mispronounced. It seems to show a lack of respect and sincerity in my opinion. The meaning behind the name is most important but that can also be reflected in the pronunciation.

In fact, some people might believe that the only way you can understand a religious work is to know the original language. But that clearly isn't true in reference to the scriptures. It is the meaning and understanding that counts.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

In fact, some people might believe that the only way you can understand a religious work is to know the original language. But that clearly isn't true in reference to the scriptures. It is the meaning and understanding that counts.

But you cannot possibly understand the full meaning of the Bible unless you read it in its original languages. Translations ALWAYS lose something.

This is why I don't understand why Christians don't start teaching their children Hebrew and Greek from the time they are very young.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Frankly, I doubt that the person named James in English in the Bible would mind being called Diego in Spanish or James in English.

Are you even aware that the James in the English translations is actually Ya'akov? It means a better translation of his name might be Jacob. Somehow "James" makes him sound Gentile rather than the Jew he was.

 

[Ebionite]

The tetragrammaton YHVH is pronounced Yehovah, “yeh-ho-vah”

You can get a good idea of how it is pronounced by looking at derivative words.

And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise יהוה: therefore she called his name Judah[יהודה]; and left bearing.
Genesis 29:35

 

[sooda]

ok.....

when I consider the text I referred to.....
I picture one man in the presence of God
and there has been a lengthy discussion

to the end of which a set of laws has been rendered
and the intent is to deliver the law unto the people

Moses does what is expected of a man
he wants to know the Name

after all.......he knew the house of Pharoah
and the gods that had names

but a name for God does seem lacking
what name could encompass such Existence?

I AM!

and whether it be past ....present ....or future......

Moses didn't know the name of the Pharaoh.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

You can get a good idea of how it is pronounced by looking at derivative words.

And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise יהוה: therefore she called his name Judah[יהודה]; and left bearing.
Genesis 29:35

No one knows how to pronounce it -- the knowledge was lost a couple thousand years ago.

And since it is breaking the commandment not to go around taking God's name in vain to pronounce it lightly or to screw around trying to pronounce it and end up mispronouncing it, its just better to leave it alone, IMHO.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The tetragrammaton YHVH is pronounced Yehovah, “yeh-ho-vah”, and the name of Christ is pronounced Yeshua, “yeh-shoo-ah”, where the name of Yeshua includes the name of Yehovah in his own name in the YE part of the name, in shortened form from the longer version of the name Yehoshua, which is a contraction of two words, Yehovah and yasha, which means, “Yehovah delivers”. Exodus 3:15, Exodus 17:9, 1 Chronicles 24:11.

You can read the full study here The True Pronunciation of YHVH and the Name of Christ | Wisdom of God .

Actually that is just one of many guesses. The truth is that the knowledge of how to pronounce it was lost a couple of millennia ago.

See post #36

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Moses didn't know the name of the Pharaoh.

In light of other facts of the story, the odds are incredibly higher that Moses would know Pharaoh's name.

 

[sooda]

In light of other facts of the story, the odds are incredibly higher that Moses would know Pharaoh's name.

Not that important in a myth,

 

[sooda]

Immanuel is his name. It is also spelled with an E, Emmanuel.

So, he as a bunch of names. Way to confuse people!

As for YHWH is means WHY.

Knowledge is not most high. Understanding is.

You can know something but not understand it. But when you understand something you cannot not know what you understand.

What is the answer to the question why? The answer is because (to cause to be).

There are more details but I'm tired. Might explain more another time.

Immanuel of Emmanuel was the name of Isaiah's son.