The true religion..

[BucephalusBB]

If one of our religions right now is the final true religion.... then why doesn't it feel perfect for everybody?

I mean, if you finally followed exactly the right religion, it must feel like you discovered the truth about the world and existance. Some of you will feel that way, but why not everybody in the same religion?

 

[Mister Emu]

Just because something is true doesn't mean people accept it...

 

[w00t]

One person's truth is another person's falsehood! I don't think there is any absolute truth where religion is concerned!

 

[Haydaman]

In my opinion, no one has it right. You cannot disprove god...but as for the religions that have been founded because of him, I'm not so sure.

To me a lot of them sound extremely silly...since Christianity has been around I think something like 32,000 different denominations have been created. All by humans who have a different opinions and lifestyles. Personally I think all humans have gotten it wrong, and those who continue to try and find the truth will fail.

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

And many simply do believe in something without labeling it as "God" or "Spaghetti Monster." But it is so easy just to label that something, especially when attempting to communicate.

People die outside of religious reasons as well, often for just as superficial reasons.

 

[Willamena]

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?

I agree with you that it shouldn't be difficult for things to be this way, it makes sense, but humans have a tendency to concretize ideas into ideologies and then lose themselves in them. We see this not just in religion but politics and all walks of life, for both atheist and theist. I think it's the same (social) forces at work.

 

[.lava]

If one of our religions right now is the final true religion.... then why doesn't it feel perfect for everybody?

I mean, if you finally followed exactly the right religion, it must feel like you discovered the truth about the world and existance. Some of you will feel that way, but why not everybody in the same religion?

for the same reason why good wouldnot be good itself without existance of bad.
Allah did creat everything with its opposite.
here on earth people who would earn heaven and hell are mixed. yet after dooms day they would be seperated as opposites.

 

[Azakel]

In my opinion, no one has it right. You cannot disprove god...but as for the religions that have been founded because of him, I'm not so sure.

To me a lot of them sound extremely silly...since Christianity has been around I think something like 32,000 different denominations have been created. All by humans who have a different opinions and lifestyles. Personally I think all humans have gotten it wrong, and those who continue to try and find the truth will fail.

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?

I agree with this and it does make a lot of sense ^_^ (you get a smile)

 

[~Amin~]

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?

"SCIENCE WITHOUT RELIGION IS LAME,
RELIGION WITHOUT SCIENCE IS BLIND".
ALBERT EINSTEIN.
Time magazine November 8, 2004 page 44.
can you produce evidence for your statement
about Albert?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

If one of our religions right now is the final true religion.... then why doesn't it feel perfect for everybody?

I mean, if you finally followed exactly the right religion, it must feel like you discovered the truth about the world and existance. Some of you will feel that way, but why not everybody in the same religion?

Very simple, really. We are finite beings looking to the Infinite.

 

[frg001]

"SCIENCE WITHOUT RELIGION IS LAME,
RELIGION WITHOUT SCIENCE IS BLIND".
ALBERT EINSTEIN.
Time magazine November 8, 2004 page 44.
can you produce evidence for your statement
about Albert?

He was not referring to religion as in 'a belief in god'

He also said


"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and Ihave never denied this but have expressed it clearly.If there is something inside me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

and
"I am a deeply religious non-believer. This is a somewhat new kind of religion"

"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be understood as anthropormorphic. What I see in nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."

"The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive"

 

[MoonWater]

We as humans seem to want to be able to explain everything yet we aren't willing to wait or do it slowly enough so that our own minds have time to develop enough to be able to comprehend that which we are trying to explain. This becomes a problem especially when refering to "god". Even calling it God limits it in our own minds and the more we try to describe it the more we limit it in our minds. I remember a story about Buddha, he was asked what truth is and he held up a flower. He didn't say anything just held it up. The idea is that saying "that's a flower" is not truth because that is just a title we give it. Other languages give it different titles but it doesn't change what it is. We seem to think that everything is the sum of it's title or the sum of it's description and when it comes to the physical world this can help us explain WHAT something is but it gets us nowhere when it comes to the "who". And when we move beyond the physical realm it doesn't even allow us to describe the "what".... at least not in any conclusive way that everyone can agree on.

 

[wizanda]

Oneness = Heaven


EGO = Sheol/(Hell)

 

[Stellify]

I think many people have that "perfect" feeling when they find the religion that is right for themselves....that kind of sense of "coming home". I don't believe that any one particular religion is "the right one" but that they all have some truth to them.
I don't remember where I saw it, but someone once described it as each religion being a different facet of the same diamond. Each is different, and each is a part of the whole.
To clarify: that sense of "rightness" is when someone comes across whatever facet is the right one for them.

 

[look3467]

Because I am a Christian I have a biased answer.
But that is not to say that Christianity is the right religion either.
So what is it that I want to say then?

I want to say that God created a situation where only God can fix it.
That situation is the sin question that prevented subjects created from accessing the benefits of the kingdom of the creator.

The subjects by no fault of their own were subjected to a condition not of their own making and by which barred them from the benefits of the creators kingdom.

The creator then remedies the situation by taking the penalty of sin away from mankind and opening the doors to have access to the creators kingdom.

What that entails is that there can be a billion different religions in the world, yet all souls living have the same opportunity to reach, access God simply by their own spirits.
What that also does is make us all brothers and sisters by the redemptive action of one.
Practice whatever belief you want, but exercises what makes us in the image of God and that is to love and forgive.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Storm]

He was not referring to religion as in 'a belief in god'

Support, please.

He also said {snip}

No, he didn't believe in a personal, anthropomorphic God. He was a pantheist, not an atheist. When asked bluntly if he believed in God at all, he answered, "Yes, Spinoza's God." Pantheist.

 

[.lava]

Oneness = Heaven


EGO = Sheol/(Hell)

ego sure leads hell.
which Oneness is that?
Oneness of paganism or Oneness of Allah?

 

[frg001]

Support, please.


No, he didn't believe in a personal, anthropomorphic God. He was a pantheist, not an atheist. When asked bluntly if he believed in God at all, he answered, "Yes, Spinoza's God." Pantheist.

Pantheist as in 'God' and 'The Universe' are the same...God as a synonym for everything that exists.
But the original quote is often (as in this case) used totally out of context.

 

[wizanda]

ego sure leads hell.
which Oneness is that?
Oneness of paganism or Oneness of Allah?

Oneness of Monotheism, which if Polytheism is truly looked at .i.e. Greek, Shinto, Hindu etc..... Then there was and is always just one creator God and many Elohim (24 elders [23 elders + 1 lamb] = angels)....... God is El.

 

[almifkhar]

true religion is not what most precieve as religion. it is spiritualism and mastering it. if one takes the time to read the holy books which pretain to a creator, one will notice that all of them have the same goal in mind, and on a deeper level they all agree as to how one achieves the end goal. people tend to get bogged down in the mine is better than yours game due to the various different rituals and practice, that they forget what it is all about, moving on from here to the next level.the one i follow simply is the right one for me, but i don't expect everyone to follow it. personally i like the vareity!