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The truth about Valentine`s day

krsnaraja

Active Member
Question: Why celebrate Valentine`s day on the 14th of February. Why not on the 15th or 16th? No prize if you can answer this question. A tap on the back will do.





From Wikipedia

Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions. The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs named Saint Valentine, and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the General Roman Calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished.

Modern Valentine's Day symbols include the heart-shaped outline, doves, and the figure of the winged Cupid. Since the 19th century, handwritten valentines have given way to mass-produced greeting cards.
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
The answer is not a given ( From the Wikipedia). If you can not answer this question. It`s because my explanation is an original idea. Nowhere you can find this answer of mine. But if you have the common sense you will be able to find the truth about Valentine`s Day. Any takers?
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
I seem to recall reading that the day prior to the Ides of February (which is to say, Feb. 14 on the Roman calendar) was dedicated to a sort of love lottery for those interested in being matched up for marriage.

I could very well be wrong, of course-- Roman customs are not my field. But if true, then it might be quite likely that the Church would have wished to overlay such a customary day with a saint's feast day, as was a common practice with them, in order to eradicate pagan practices.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
St. Valentines were noted as martyred on February 14th... ergo, St. Valentine's day is Feb. 14th.

As for the love stuff, 14th and 15th century Chivalric courtship.
 
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
The World Book Encyclopedia says: “Valentine’s Day comes on the feast day of two different Christian martyrs named Valentine. But the customs connected with the day . . . probably come from an ancient Roman festival called Lupercalia which took place every February 15. The festival honored Juno, the Roman goddess of women and marriage, and Pan, the god of nature.”—(1973), Vol. 20, p. 204.

But as to its earlier origins, the early Greeks believed that the deity Pan was the god of the flocks and shepherds. He was a voluptuous, sensual, dancing creature. Pan was adopted by Rome as their god Faunus, also called Lupercus.
The priests of this demon god were known as Luperci. In mid-February these priests went about striking women with goatskin thongs, claiming it would promote fertility. Other mystic and sexual rites of this ancient spring love festival included the giving of young women to men by a sort of lottery and thus the sexual orgy could begin. Of course when the Catholic Church rose up and began taking over the control of Rome, it absorbed all these pre-Christian feasts of Greece and Rome by adding a 'christian' flavor to them...in this case they renamed it 'Valentines day' because Valentine was a christian who married young couples against Romes wishes. Rome wanted young soldiers to remain single, but Valentine secretly married some who wanted to get married and thats why he was executed.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
If you can not answer this question. It`s because my explanation is an original idea. Nowhere you can find this answer of mine. But if you have the common sense you will be able to find the truth about Valentine`s Day.
Note my signature. :facepalm:
 

chinu

chinu
Question: Why celebrate Valentine`s day on the 14th of February. Why not on the 15th or 16th? No prize if you can answer this question. A tap on the back will do.





From Wikipedia

Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions. The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs named Saint Valentine, and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the General Roman Calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished.

Modern Valentine's Day symbols include the heart-shaped outline, doves, and the figure of the winged Cupid. Since the 19th century, handwritten valentines have given way to mass-produced greeting cards.
Modren age Valentine's Day sounds like a LUST-DAY.



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Chinu
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
You really don`t have any idea why Valentine`s Day falls on the 14th, not 15th 16th? Wow! I thought RF has the best minds in cyberspace.( It only takes one with common sense to know the truth about Valentine`s day.)
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
February is the only month in the calendar with 28 days. It actually refers to a woman`s menstrual cycle. The 14th day refers to the date of ovulation. If a woman`s 1st day of menstrual cycle say, starts on February 1, it`s expected she will ovulate on February 14. That`s the truth.
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
Why would a women's menstrual cycle make a difference? (no sarcasm)
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The Reproductive Health Bill provides for universal distribution of family planning devices, and its enforcement.
The Reproductive Health bills, popularly known as the RH Bill , are Philippine bills aiming to guarantee universal access to methods and information on birth control and maternal care. The bills have become the center of a contentious national debate. There are presently two bills with the same goals: House Bill No. 4244 or An Act Providing for a Comprehensive Policy on Responsible Parenthood, Reproductive Health, and Population and Development, and For Other Purposes introduced by Albay 1st district Representative Edcel Lagman, and Senate Bill No. 2378 or An Act Providing For a National Policy on Reproductive Health and Population and Development introduced by Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago.
While there is general agreement about its provisions on maternal and child health, there is great debate on its key proposal that the Philippine government and the private sector will fund and undertake widespread distribution of family planning devices such as condoms, birth control pills (BCPs) and IUDs, as the government continues to disseminate information on their use through all health care centers.
The bill is highly divisive, with experts, academics, religious institutions, and major political figures supporting and opposing it, often criticizing the government and each other in the process. Debates and rallies for and against the bill, with tens of thousand participating, have been happening all over the country
 

not nom

Well-Known Member
was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the General Roman Calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI.

does anyone know why? my first thought was "as a reaction to the hippies" haha.. that it had become so secular the church didn't want to have anything to do with it anymore :p but the real reason would of course be more interesting..
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
Thanks krsnaraja
Actually I didn't know when posting that, that the menstrual cycle was 28 days :eek: I have sinced looked it up. Back to school for me. lol
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
You`re welcome, Onkara! & to all who shared their views.

Valentine`s Day is the only family planning method approved by the Catholic Church. The method is very simple to apply. To prevent unwanted pregnancies a sex couple will have to abstain sexual intercourse when the female sexual partner is ovulating on the 14th day of her menstrual cycle. ).
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
February is the only month in the calendar with 28 days. It actually refers to a woman`s menstrual cycle. The 14th day refers to the date of ovulation. If a woman`s 1st day of menstrual cycle say, starts on February 1, it`s expected she will ovulate on February 14. That`s the truth.
Thanks for not disappointing me. Now, on to the Bible Code.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
Krsn said:
No correct answers yet.
Yes, there was a correct answer. The ancient martyrologies listed several St. Valentines on Feb. 14th.

Pegg said:
Of course when the Catholic Church rose up and began taking over the control of Rome, it absorbed all these pre-Christian feasts of Greece and Rome by adding a 'christian' flavor to them...in this case they renamed it 'Valentines day' because Valentine was a christian who married young couples against Romes wishes. Rome wanted young soldiers to remain single, but Valentine secretly married some who wanted to get married and thats why he was executed.
St. Valentines day wasn't associated with romance until the 14th and 15th centuries, based on the common idea that the middle of February was when birds picked their mates. Legends connecting any of the Valentines(and there were at least three of them) to romance are relatively recent.

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but the real reason would of course be more interesting..
Not really... it was decided that there just wasn't enough about either of the Valentines known to have a Church wide celebration. Thus it was left up to the local churches to decide whether or not to celebrate the feast.
 
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Levite

Higher and Higher
February is the only month in the calendar with 28 days. It actually refers to a woman`s menstrual cycle. The 14th day refers to the date of ovulation. If a woman`s 1st day of menstrual cycle say, starts on February 1, it`s expected she will ovulate on February 14. That`s the truth.

You know that the institution of February having 28 days had nothing to do with women's menstrual cycles, right?

The number of days in February in the pre-Julian Roman calendar was 30; on the Julian calendar it was originally 29; and it was reduced to 28 by Augustus' addition of his new eponymous month.

Any half-decent resource on the evolution of the Roman calendar can tell you this.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Yes, there was a correct answer. The ancient martyrologies listed several St. Valentines on Feb. 14th. St. Valentines day wasn't associated with romance until the 14th and 15th centuries, based on the common idea that the middle of February was when birds picked their mates.
And the average menstrual cycle is apparently 29.1 days, not 28.

One of the problems with "common sense" is that it too often confuses [apparent] correlation with causation. :yes:
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
You know that the institution of February having 28 days had nothing to do with women's menstrual cycles, right?

The number of days in February in the pre-Julian Roman calendar was 30; on the Julian calendar it was originally 29; and it was reduced to 28 by Augustus' addition of his new eponymous month.

Any half-decent resource on the evolution of the Roman calendar can tell you this.
:clap
 
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