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The two judgements ?

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I have come across references to the "two Judgements" in Roman Catholicsm, and yet the following text would indicate that this is a belief in Eastern orthodoxy. The more I look, the more references I find - even in the Church of England.

Perhaps members here can give me their ideas on this belief (whatever branch of Abrahamic religions you subscribe to )

From: -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Judgment

Eastern Orthodoxy

The Eastern Orthodox Church teaches that there are two judgments: the first, or "Particular" Judgment, is that experienced by each individual at the time of his or her death, at which time God will decide where[4] the soul is to spend the time until the Second Coming of Christ (see Hades in Christianity). This judgment is generally believed to occur on the fortieth day after death. The second, "General" or "Final" Judgment will occur after the Second Coming. Although in modern times some have attempted to introduce the concept of Soul sleep into Orthodox thought about life after death, it has never been a part of traditional Orthodox teaching—in fact, it contradicts the Orthodox understanding of the intercession of the Saints.
Eastern Orthodoxy teaches that salvation is bestowed by God as a free gift of Divine grace, which cannot be earned, and by which forgiveness of sins is available to all. However, the deeds done by each person are believed to affect how he will be judged, following the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats. How forgiveness is to be balanced against behavior is not well-defined in scripture, judgment in the matter being solely Christ's. Similarly, although Orthodoxy teaches that salvation is obtained only through Christ and his Church, the fate of those outside the Church at the Last Judgment is left to the mercy of God and is not declared.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
Heaven is not the next step so souls go into a kind of soul sleep after death. Before Jesus completed His earthly bestowal mission all dead human's souls were asleep. Only after Jesus ascended were they awakened. The reason for this is because the doorway to heaven was not open because there was no one trustworthy enough to guard it until Jesus completed His mission.

There was, and still is, a tremendous backlog of sleeping souls that have to be awakened and then taught the universal language and advanced God Theory. Currently about 150,000 people die each day on the earth so that should give you an idea of how huge the universal schooling system has to be to handle that many souls.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Heaven is not the next step so souls go into a kind of soul sleep after death. Before Jesus completed His earthly bestowal mission all dead human's souls were asleep. Only after Jesus ascended were they awakened. The reason for this is because the doorway to heaven was not open because there was no one trustworthy enough to guard it until Jesus completed His mission.

There was, and still is, a tremendous backlog of sleeping souls that have to be awakened and then taught the universal language and advanced God Theory. Currently about 150,000 people die each day on the earth so that should give you an idea of how huge the universal schooling system has to be to handle that many souls.

Thanks, I understand what you are saying, but that does no address the point about "two judgemnents"; just out of interest, can you give me links about this ?
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
The Urantia Book explains the soul and Jesus earthly mission. Wingmakers goes into a more scientific explanation of the soul and it's connection with humans but it is quite complicated and you have to really read the whole story (start with Interview #1) so you can get the gist of it, otherwise it's like trying to figure out what's going on by walking in to a movie at mid point.
http://www.urantia.org/
http://www.wingmakers.com/
 
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