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The War On Drugs Is A War On Terror.

Frank Castle

Active Member
What a real joke, Gov'ts can secure the borders from terrorist who use radical means of killing others even if it means killing themselves, but can't plug a leak for these dapper dons with manicures to get the dope to fuel their lifestyles, pleeeze!


Take for example Afghanistan, were 80% of the World's heroine is grown, today with so many nations being physically there with army troops no less, can't secure those fields and destroy them with series of carpet bombs. Instead you have these poppy growers able to cultivate, process and actually smuggle their product out from their territory, under all those nations noses and then, smuggle them into our countries.


Only when druglords reach a certain status, does the Gov't move with laws in hand ready to arrest confiscate all materials, including cash, bank accounts in every countries of the world, properties and wealth. This is a hidden tax at the expense of the people and their children. Everyone knows drugs are a gateway for the demons to possess, and the cost to victims because of such crimes of possesion, for when drug user consume, they don't engage in moral or lawful activity, you never hear someone after sniffing a line, "let's go do some volunteer work at the hospital" or "let's help the homeless." But you will see them holding up the corner store, plotting aggression or engage in the sex trade to keep the habit, never knowing how skillfully plotted our Elite's who govern us have sold them to the power of the demons.


The next time these officials running for office cross your path, I'd lay it squarely before them, as why US troops aren't carpet bombing the opium fields now that we are there and have reason, since this contraband money fuels the terrorists and their activities carried out accross the World. The war on drugs can only be won, when they take the war on terrorism seriously!
 

lamplighter

Almighty Tallest
The war on drugs is a joke, every year they say their "cracking down on drugs" but every year they seem to be more wide spread. Here in Mississippi there has a actually been a couple of cases where cops have been busted for trafficking and selling drugs. Not what I call the best of efforts in the war drugs, though there was recently a big street level bust here, it seems to have done absolutely nothing in quelling the flow of drugs.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Not what I call the best of efforts in the war drugs, though there was recently a big street level bust here, it seems to have done absolutely nothing in quelling the flow of drugs.
The "war on drugs" is to scare people and to increase the wealth and power of prison and law enforcement contractors and employees. Drug use hasn't signfiicantly declined. Drug imports haven't significantly declined. Violent crimes haven't significantly declined. Meanwhile . . .

  • Foreign drug dealers have risen to great power and wealth because of the black market prices, promoting political instability and an atmosphere conducive to the trade in illegal arms as well.
  • At 1 out every 100, the U.S. has the largest percentage of its citizens in prison - possibly of any country in human history! 70% of those are for drug-related offenses.
  • Public expenditures on prisons has increased nearly five-fold over just the last two decades (from $11B -$49B), and that doesn't include the additional law enforcement and court-related costs (judges, court employees, prosecutors, public defenders, probation officers, etc. - 50% of our justice system is tied up with drug crimes). And total national expenditures exceed $75B annually.
  • And then of course, there's all the violent crime that surrounds prohibition laws, because of the criminalizing of the business of drug trafficking.
[SIZE=+3]I[/SIZE] HAVE spared you, even as I spared myself, an arithmetical consummation of my inquiry, but the data here cited instruct us that the cost of the drug war is many times more painful, in all its manifestations, than would be the licensing of drugs combined with intensive education of non-users and intensive education designed to warn those who experiment with drugs. We have seen a substantial reduction in the use of tobacco over the last thirty years, and this is not because tobacco became illegal but because a sentient community began, in substantial numbers, to apprehend the high cost of tobacco to human health, even as, we can assume, a growing number of Americans desist from practicing unsafe sex and using polluted needles in this age of AIDS. If 80 million Americans can experiment with drugs and resist addiction using information publicly available, we can reasonably hope that approximately the same number would resist the temptation to purchase such drugs even if they were available at a federal drugstore at the mere cost of production.


And added to the above is the point of civil justice. Those who suffer from the abuse of drugs have themselves to blame for it. This does not mean that society is absolved from active concern for their plight. It does mean that their plight is subordinate to the plight of those citizens who do not experiment with drugs but whose life, liberty, and property are substantially affected by the illegalization of the drugs sought after by the minority.

- William F. Buckley (RIP), of all people.
 

Somkid

Well-Known Member
Believe me they would grow more dope in the USA if they could get away with it. "The war on drugs" was lost a long time ago.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Drugs should be legal for many reasons and the effects would be profoundly positive.

Well, it would depend on the drug and how it is used and regulated. If it's something largely benign like cannabis, it could be taxed and licensed like alcohol and tobacco.
But hard stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine, etc. we're better off without. We need to change wow we go about punishing people for victimless crimes and stuffing them into overcrowded prisons, however
 

3.14

Well-Known Member
to bad we can't make drugs sentient, els we would have supersoldiers
the way they win wars without even doing anything is amazing.

i mean its not like its a war on drugsdealers
 

Alceste

Vagabond
How would you feel about Islamic nations "carpet bombing" fields of American barley, grapes, potatoes and hops to stamp out the evils of alcohol? Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
ronald reagan,and carter i believe but coul be wrong,armed the taliban and trained them to use stingers,and informed them,to fight the russians in 1979,northern alliance where nuetral,or the non millitants,united states,not only armed trained and propelled a military group,wich was ragtag and armed with weapons that were only good for close combat and were poor,stingers m80s 50 cal rifles and other anti tank anti chopper weapons apeared and were financed by whom,black opps,cia,mi6,even canada and other harmless nations helped.taliban served a purpose as cannon foder to fight russians,after there defat and afgans where not threatened by outside invasion,where armed and respected,the states r resonsible for extremist muslims,britian,dutch,french and most europeans also helped.after 1979 war u had a military gov who had no finance,no industry but opium everywhere,the us should know this.if u put a group in power with views that drugs arnt evil but the ppl that do em r than the r justified to produce heroin!taliban were armed and given a country by hidden financers and arms dealers.they used m80s stingers and western arms until russian defeat than the grew herion to finace there militants after and flooded the world with heroin.if u looked at stats and looked at types of arms and social economic stats you can date it.than the war on drugs starts in 80s,cocaine and heroin all over,afgans and columbians both american funded countrys,top world drug producers.
 

OutOfTime

Active Member
that's exactly what happened.

i still think that the ppl who run the US, are also the ones who run all inteliigence agencies (CIA, KGB, MOSSAD, and probably al-qaeda). bin laden's an american agent if anything.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
How would you feel about Islamic nations "carpet bombing" fields of American barley, grapes, potatoes and hops to stamp out the evils of alcohol? Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

That is the most offensive post I have ever read. So after the shock value is over what is your point? Heroine should be legal or alcohol should be banned?
 

Smoke

Done here.
That is the most offensive post I have ever read. So after the shock value is over what is your point? Heroine should be legal or alcohol should be banned?
Alceste can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the point was that carpet bombing the cash crops of other countries, even if we disapprove of them, isn't very nice.

The war on drugs is a sick joke.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Alceste can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the point was that carpet bombing the cash crops of other countries, even if we disapprove of them, isn't very nice.

The war on drugs is a sick joke.

I still would enjoy seeing the crop go up in flames. Heroine is really bad.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Alceste can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the point was that carpet bombing the cash crops of other countries, even if we disapprove of them, isn't very nice.

The war on drugs is a sick joke.

Yes thanks, that sums it up nicely. I was trying to drive home the concept of "Do unto others as you would have done to you" with an hypothetical example of the concept in action.
 

NoahideHiker

Religious Headbanger
That is the most offensive post I have ever read. So after the shock value is over what is your point? Heroine should be legal or alcohol should be banned?

It's faulty logic because it is assuming that we are growing and manufacturing alcohol and supplying it to another nations people contrary to that country's laws.

But hey, I'm one of the kooks who think it should be legal. So what do I know? LOL!
 

Alceste

Vagabond
It's faulty logic because it is assuming that we are growing and manufacturing alcohol and supplying it to another nations people contrary to that country's laws.

??? and we're not ???? I was sure I saw a few illicit bottles of Jack Daniels floating around when I was in Morocco...
 

Napoleon

Active Member
Take for example Afghanistan, were 80% of the World's heroine is grown, today with so many nations being physically there with army troops no less, can't secure those fields and destroy them with series of carpet bombs. Instead you have these poppy growers able to cultivate, process and actually smuggle their product out from their territory, under all those nations noses and then, smuggle them into our countries.

The Afghan government was willing to destroy the poppy fields IF any nation in favor could provide an example of what resource they could use to replace it with in transition. After all, opium and heroin sales play a very large role in their economy and basket weaving does not a first world country make. They have enough natural resources to more than make up for the loss but nothing that could replace opium and heroin sales during the transition.
 
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