The warmongers at the European Union

[muhammad_isa]

At least in the West in general I think you can trust the voting system..

No. The West is headed by the US, with Western European policies obliged to fall in
line, regardless of elected representatives.
In the US, "tweedledum or tweedledee" are both effectively controlled by the same oligarchs, who ensure
their policies are followed.

..so much for Western democracy.

This is what you get with uncontrolled Capitalism .. the masses lose control, as the govt.
becomes dictated to by the bankers/monopolies.

 

[Estro Felino]

Indeed we do. And one of the things we know about Russia is that showing weakness and cowardice to it, is a VERY bad idea.

Russia is like a highschool bully. If you allow it to take your lunch money "to keep the peace", it will only be back the next day to do it again. And again, and again, and again,....

The only thing such a bully understands, is a swift punch in the nose.

I am glad that a person from Belgium, the country of technocracy has this warlike stance.

This will accelerate the undoing of this disgusting, Sorosian EU.

We will found another EU where the Sorosians cannot enter.

 

[Estro Felino]

By doing so, Orban accomplished exactly nothing except make Putin think he will get away with his war of aggression.

He has become the hero of Europe.
And I have news for you.
Italy secretly supports him.

Tell the Brussels warmongers.

 

[muhammad_isa]

A defensive alliance to deter countries from attacking one of the members since it would be considered an attack on all members.

North Atlantic Treaty Organization .. as the name suggests, it was set up after the 2nd. WW as a
means of the victors, the West, to ensure the East was checked militarily. Europe was in bad shape,
but not the US.
Since the fall of the Berlin wall (end of the cold war), the US has pursued a policy of "we can do whatever we want", ignoring Russia's objections, even though they remain a significant nuclear nation.

..so Russia cannot be part of NATO, but they have to accept that NATO is expanding and can't stop
its expansion and influence.
It's no surprise that they do not accept that. The Ukrainians/Russians have to die due to major
powers squabbling over this..

 

[muhammad_isa]

Russia is like a highschool bully..

Try looking in the mirror..

US officials say that they must pass the "Hague invasion act", in order to shut
down the International Criminal Court.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I am glad that a person from Belgium, the country of technocracy has this warlike stance.

It has nothing to do with a "warlike stance" and everything with not cowering in the face of bullies.

This will accelerate the undoing of this disgusting, Sorosian EU.
We will found another EU where the Sorosians cannot enter.

Good luck with that.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

He has become the hero of Europe.

Actually, he's quite isolated and considered more scum then anything else.

And I have news for you.
Italy secretly supports him.

So secret that you know about it lol.

 

[Estro Felino]

It has nothing to do with a "warlike stance" and everything with not cowering in the face of bullies.

The duty of the EU after the fall of the Berlin Wall is to promote peace between EU and Russia.

But we have the most Russophobic countries, the Baltics, transformed into somehow "leading countries of the EU".

Horrific.

They are nobodys. They are not even net contributors. They found their cultural identity on sterile Russophobia.

Good luck with that.

Bonne chance, Bruxelles.

 

[Estro Felino]

Actually, he's quite isolated and considered more scum then anything else.

In the EU there are stable governments and unstable governments.
Orban is a very stable government.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

..so Russia cannot be part of NATO

Says who? Russia never applied to join.
There's no rule saying they can't join.

Off course, to be able to join they'ld be required to do some serious reforms off course. Shame democracies where political opposition is jailed, banished or killed do not qualify.

, but they have to accept that NATO is expanding and can't stop
its expansion and influence.

The only reason it expands is because there are countries that beg to join.
Every time a country joined, it was because that country wanted to. NATO never forced, or even invited, anybody to join.
Every expansion was at the sovereign request of the country that joined.

People like @Estro Felino pretend to be so much pro-self-determination of people. But when this self-determination makes them choose to join NATO, then suddenly it's a bad thing?

It's no surprise that they do not accept that.

Maybe it's not up to Russia to "not accept" the sovereign decisions of other nations?
Before 2022 Norway and Sweden didn't want to join NATO. Nobody in NATO was angry about that. Nobody was trying to force them into joining.
Post 2022, it was Norway and Sweden's own sovereign decision to join.

Why are these discussions always about what "Russia" does or doesn't like?
What about what Ukraine likes? What about what Norway and Sweden like?
Are their likes and dislikes less important then Russia's?

Who's decision is it what alliance Sweden or Ukraine does or doesn't engage in?

The Ukrainians/Russians have to die due to major
powers squabbling over this..

No. Ukrainians / Russians are dying because Putin ordered his army to invade. This is the only reason that Ukrainians and Russians are fighting in Ukraine.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Try looking in the mirror..

I am.

US officials say that they must pass the "Hague invasion act", in order to shut
down the International Criminal Court.

No idea what you are referring to. But it smells a bit like another what-about-ism

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

The duty of the EU after the fall of the Berlin Wall is to promote peace between EU and Russia.

Sure. But if Russia insists on acting like a bully, then it has to be treated as such.

But we have the most Russophobic countries, the Baltics, transformed into somehow "leading countries of the EU".

I don't consider them russophobic. Instead, they understand how the Kremlin thinks. They understand the type of threat they are. They understand that they can't be trusted. There's a reason why these countries are / were so desperate to join NATO.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

In the EU there are stable governments and unstable governments.
Orban is a very stable government.

Yes, we know already how you have the hots for fascistic autocrats.

 

[Estro Felino]

Sure. But if Russia insists on acting like a bully, then it has to be treated as such.



I don't consider them russophobic. Instead, they understand how the Kremlin thinks. They understand the type of threat they are. They understand that they can't be trusted. There's a reason why these countries are / were so desperate to join NATO.

The NATO scared of Russia is like the tiger scared of a mouse.
They are pathetic.
They are turning the victim into the perpetrator.

 

[Revoltingest]

The NATO scared of Russia is like the tiger scared of a mouse.
They are pathetic.
They are turning the victim into the perpetrator.

Russia....such a tiny country...no nuclear weapons...no
natural resources...technologically backward...& now
big bad Ukraine is attacking them unprovoked.

 

[Mock Turtle]

The duty of the EU after the fall of the Berlin Wall is to promote peace between EU and Russia.

Not to me - the duty was to become an economic power so that such was not so dependent on other blocs. If Russia had become more obviously democratic - which might have taken a decade at least - then perhaps it then might have been considered more favourably. Given that the oligarchs were more interested in their own personal wealth - as was Putin - one can see why the EU just didn't see Russia as a friend like any other. If Russia had got rid of all their nukes then this would have been an obvious gesture - but as likely as proper democracy occurring seemingly.

But we have the most Russophobic countries, the Baltics, transformed into somehow "leading countries of the EU".

Horrific.

They are nobodys. They are not even net contributors. They found their cultural identity on sterile Russophobia.

Bonne chance, Bruxelles.

Well they were under the Soviet thumb for so long.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

The NATO scared of Russia is like the tiger scared of a mouse.
They are pathetic.
They are turning the victim into the perpetrator.

You are all over the place again. You seems once again desperate to distract from the point at hand.

 

[Estro Felino]

Russia....such a tiny country...no nuclear weapons...no
natural resources...technologically backward...& now
big bad Ukraine is attacking them unprovoked.

I would kneel and worship you, if you admitted that the USA craves for Russia's natural resources, and this war is just a pretext.