The Watchmaker Revisited

[exchemist]

Lifting a mass involves the exertion of energy, which can be measured as waves.

How?

 

[godnotgod]

No. A disturbance is a change. It does not gave to be a change in energy.
Depends on the specific field: electron, photon, gluon, quark, etc. All are different types of fields with different properties.

Any change, or disturbance, involves the expending of energy.

Let me rephrase: what is the underlying nature of all fields, that qualifies them as a 'field'?

 

[godnotgod]

Waves generally have kinetic energy f rf on the vibration. But, for example, heat is a form of energy that is not a wave.

I can SEE the waves of heat energy arising from the road on a hot day.

 

[godnotgod]

How?

Lifting creates friction in the form of heat.

 

[godnotgod]

1/2 m v^2, for example. It isnt the same as the mass energy. It is the energy of motion.

...which can be seen as waves.

 

[paarsurrey]

Just a quick aside.

The trouble with science and religion is assumption.

If a man from primitive earth is walking along the beach and comes across a watch it's assumed that man would think the watch had a designer. Not necessarily. It's quite possible the man would think "What a pretty rock, I think it would look cool if I rubbed some **** in my beard and stuck it there."

It's also possible that the man would think "That's not a bad watch. Not as good as the ones on my home planet Rolex V but, not bad at all. . . "

There's no reason why we can't have a sense of humor.

The truthful religion does not do any assumptions, please.
One's assumption is incorrect, please. Right, please?
Regards

 

[Earthling]

The truthful religion does not do any assumptions, please.
One's assumption is incorrect, please. Right, please?
Regards

The assumption on religion's part in the OP was that the watch must require an intelligent designer.

 

[paarsurrey]

The assumption on religion's part in the OP was that the watch must require an intelligent designer.

Please quote from the truthful Word revealed from G-d where it is mentioned, please?

Regards

 

[Looncall]

I can SEE the waves of heat energy arising from the road on a hot day.

No, you can't. What you see is due to differing indices of refrsction in portions of air rising by convection.

Energy is neither a thing nor a substance. It is just shorthand for expressing states of objects.

 

[Earthling]

Please quote from the truthful Word revealed from G-d where it is mentioned, please?

Regards

It wasn't the Word from G-d that mentioned it, it was religion.

 

[paarsurrey]

It wasn't the Word from G-d that mentioned it, it was religion.

So, it is the people who understood the Word incorrectly.

Regards

 

[godnotgod]

No, you can't. What you see is due to differing indices of refrsction in portions of air rising by convection.

Energy is neither a thing nor a substance. It is just shorthand for expressing states of objects.

Waves are what is detected when energy is being expended.

Convection heat waves. I love 'em in my coffee cup.

 

[Earthling]

So, it is the people who understood the Word incorrectly.

Regards

Not necessarily. The point was that sometimes things aren't what they seem. Assuming is correct as long as you follow through.

 

[Polymath257]

Any change, or disturbance, involves the expending of energy.

Let me rephrase: what is the underlying nature of all fields, that qualifies them as a 'field'?

That they depend on position. That's why we have scalar fields, vector fields, spinor fields, etc. All different sorts of fields..depend on positikn.

 

[Polymath257]

...which can be seen as waves.

Or not. Energy is one property, but not the only or even the defining property, of a wave.

 

[Polymath257]

Lifting creates friction in the form of heat.

Not nexessarily. For example, on the moon.

 

[Polymath257]

Waves are what is detected when energy is being expended.

Particles are more commonly the presentation.

Convection heat waves. I love 'em in my coffee cup.

Not the only way manifests.

 

[godnotgod]

That they depend on position. That's why we have scalar fields, vector fields, spinor fields, etc. All different sorts of fields..depend on positikn.

That doesn't tell me about the nature of fields; position is just a particular parameter.

 

[godnotgod]

Or not. Energy is one property, but not the only or even the defining property, of a wave.

Perhaps not, but where there is energy, there are waves.

 

[godnotgod]

Not nexessarily. For example, on the moon.

There is still heat energy being generated in the muscles of the person doing the lifting.