The Western-Centric, Racist Myopia Among the Regressive Left

[Debater Slayer]

Iwould suspect it's a mix of old colonial habits of being obsequious toward rich white people and of course, the desire to make some extra money and get tip which is perfectly understandable and not something for which would blame them. People got to make a living and trying to get some tips and good reviews is a perfectly legitimate way to do it. It's just a bit creepy at some point. There is such a thing in my opinion as being "too polite".

I agree, on all counts. A lot of people have a preconceived notion that being white automatically means being from a developed country and/or being rich, which leads to the obsequious treatment compared to people of color (unless they know a person of color is also rich or from a developed country).

Also, I think any privilege from being white--as opposed to just being a native of a powerful country--is mostly experienced by males. As I mentioned earlier, white women in some countries seem to get hassled as a result of their appearance more often than they get any advantage or privilege from it.

 

[Kooky]

I agree, on all counts. A lot of people have a preconceived notion that being white automatically means being from a developed country and/or being rich, which leads to the obsequious treatment compared to people of color (unless they know a person of color is also rich or from a developed country).

Also, I think any privilege from being white--as opposed to just being a native of a powerful country--is mostly experienced by males. As I mentioned earlier, white women in some countries seem to get hassled as a result of their appearance more often than they get any advantage or privilege from it.

How many white people live in third world or developing countries?

 

[epronovost]

How many white people live in third world or developing countries?

A lot more than you would think. There is a significant number of Africaners and white hispanic people in latin America and Brazil. Some of the Balkan countries are also considered in development. It's of note though that Africaners and white hispanic people in latin America and Brazil are, on average, significantly richer then their fellow citizens thanks to white supremacist policies that date back from the colonial era.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It's odd that you saw a problem of racism in an event that seems to relate to the intersection of race and gender. The egyptian men in your example aren't so much racist as they are incredibly sexist and fetishise white women as a fantasm. White men in Egypt face a very different experience. In my time there I found them obsequious toward my father, myself and my brother, but creepy toward my sisters. Racism isn't lived in the same way depending on your gender, your age and other factors like wealth, level of education, etc. Racism and sexism are complex systems that vary depending societies and conditions.

I found something similar while living in Papua New Guinea. As a white man, I had definite privilege and also was the target of pretty extreme racism (somewhat understandably in some cases).

My girlfriend of the time came to visit, and her experience was different to mine, with fetishism, targetting and on more rare occasions fascination from other women all being regular occurrences.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I mean I suppose, to be fair, a lot of political movements are not global. Nor do they think in such terms. Every country has its own unique problems when it comes to race, class and bloodied history. So political movements will inevitably vary drastically, country to country. What you say is true in Egypt. But Egypt is not America, which has entirely different circumstances and problems. Even New Zealand differs drastically to Australia and they’re like our literal neighbours.

Yeah, but our closest neighbour is PNG, and if you want 'different'...woo baby.

 

[SomeRandom]

Yeah, but our closest neighbour is PNG, and if you want 'different'...woo baby.

Lol true