The world being made especially for humans doesn't line up with reality and facts

[Rainbow Mage]

I think about this idea that the world was made just for us, and it really doesn't seem very consistent with reality. This world is a brutal and sometimes harsh place where people struggle to survive.

 

[Gharib]

look at us and look at everything else, don't you see the hirachy, us above all else on earth?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

look at us and look at everything else, don't you see the hirachy, us above all else on earth?

That's no evidence that this world was made for us. If it was made for us it certainly isn't a very good make. Existence in this world could be called hell by many.

 

[LuisDantas]

look at us and look at everything else, don't you see the hirachy, us above all else on earth?

Do you? I certainly don't.

 

[Gharib]

That's no evidence that this world was made for us. If it was made for us it certainly isn't a very good make. Existence in this world could be called hell by many.

yes it is, everything was created to serve us (as stated in the quran) doesn't everything already serve us? we use all things to our benefit, do you see humans being used by other creatures against their will?

why is this existence hell?

 

[Gharib]

Do you? I certainly don't.

yes i do, it's so obvious. look at it from a scientific/biological perspective. humans are considered to be the weakest 'animal' on earth. yet we have the ability to overpower everything.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

yes it is, everything was created to serve us (as stated in the quran) doesn't everything already serve us? we use all things to our benefit, do you see humans being used by other creatures against their will?

why is this existence hell?

You think the fact that we're able to intimidate other creatures into submission to us by use of weapons and fear means this world was made for us? Are you saying then that we were made to terrorize other living things into submission?

 

[MissAlice]

To a certain extent I agree with eselam. We tend to do the most damage to living things than any other species. If you don't believe in global warming, poaching and hunting to extinctions then disregard what I said.

On the otherhand, at least we are learning and fighting to slow this perpuation down given the extent and damage caused.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Miss Alice would you say that scientific observation and facts support this notion that the world was "made for us"? Is this earth that perfectly suitable for humans?

 

[LuisDantas]

yes i do, it's so obvious. look at it from a scientific/biological perspective. humans are considered to be the weakest 'animal' on earth. yet we have the ability to overpower everything.

Sorry, I just don't see it. Bacteria, cockroaches and virii are far more adapted to this planet than we are. And even they would have a hard time showing this world to be "made for them".

 

[Gharib]

You think the fact that we're able to intimidate other creatures into submission to us by use of weapons and fear means this world was made for us? Are you saying then that we were made to terrorize other living things into submission?

we werent created to terrorize other living things, we were created to worship god. everything on earth is part of the creation of god, as muslims we must love the creation of god which includes everything on earth. and throughout our lives we may use what we need. we use certain animals for food, certain animals for help, etc etc.

i never used weapons to make my chickens lay eggs, nor to make the cows give milk, nor to put a sadle on a horse.

 

[Willamena]

The earth wasn't just made for us.


(I think I'll leave that assertion ambiguous.)

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Eselam when I say do you think the world being made especially for humans lines up for facts I'm asking you to use your observation and reasoning skills. Look at life in the desert for example, or in a dry wasteland. Look how people struggle to live in these places, or in the artic. Can you tell me after seeing that that the world was made especially for us, as though it's the perfect ideal habitat for humans?

 

[Gharib]

Sorry, I just don't see it. Bacteria, cockroaches and virii are far more adapted to this planet than we are. And even they would have a hard time showing this world to be "made for them".

i'm sorry but this is beyond me. i never said anything about adaptation, i told you that we are considered the weakest creatures. i'd like to see footage though of cockroaches going to space.

 

[Gharib]

Eselam when I say do you think the world being made especially for humans lines up for facts I'm asking you to use your observation and reasoning skills. Look at life in the desert for example, or in a dry wasteland. Look how people struggle to live in these places, or in the artic. Can you tell me after seeing that that the world was made especially for us, as though it's the perfect ideal habitat for humans?

the sun too isn't a perfect habitat for humans, but it does it's job for which it was created for.

and yes, after seeing everything i do believe the world was created for us.

 

[Breathe]

People like to make out we are special.

Really, we're just lucky. We're intelligent, very social, have opposable thumbs, language, and imagination.

For example, if Neanderthals lived in bigger groups and weren't so territorial (although it makes sense why, I suppose - couldn't afford to be), they could have potentially made new technologies like throwing spears, leading to less deaths. Then we could have been the ones who didn't exist.

 

[Willamena]

Eselam when I say do you think the world being made especially for humans lines up for facts I'm asking you to use your observation and reasoning skills. Look at life in the desert for example, or in a dry wasteland. Look how people struggle to live in these places, or in the artic. Can you tell me after seeing that that the world was made especially for us, as though it's the perfect ideal habitat for humans?

It's only a "struggle" if that's what you observe.

 

[Noaidi]

I think about this idea that the world was made just for us, and it really doesn't seem very consistent with reality. This world is a brutal and sometimes harsh place where people struggle to survive.

Totally agree.
Since I came to RF, my signature has echoed the same sentiment.

 

[LuisDantas]

i'm sorry but this is beyond me. i never said anything about adaptation, i told you that we are considered the weakest creatures. i'd like to see footage though of cockroaches going to space.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Willamena]

What does that have to do with anything?

It obviously has to do with his definition of "overpower everything". (hint hint)