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The world of Deep Fakes.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Deep fakes are videos where the voice and image of the person are generated by computer. There are even rather basic ones that though fairly obvious, are good enough to be a bit frightening. I would skip the first half of this video and get into the actual fakes themselves. There were made with just a laptop:


So what happens when the President of the U.S. can be made to say anything that a faker wants him to say and it will be almost impossible to tell from the real thing?
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Deep fakes are videos where the voice and image of the person are generated by computer. There are even rather basic ones that though fairly obvious, are good enough to be a bit frightening. I would skip the first half of this video and get into the actual fakes themselves. There were made with just a laptop:


So what happens when the President of the U.S. can be made to say anything that a faker wants him to say and it will be almost impossible to tell from the real thing?
Or any of the President's opponents...or, frankly, anyone else in the world...
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's the direction technology is taking us. I've heard of this stuff before, and all I can say it's a quick route to a dystopian Society.
 
So what happens when the President of the U.S. can be made to say anything that a faker wants him to say and it will be almost impossible to tell from the real thing?

Other than what can be done by making fakes, it will also remove a way of holding people accountable.

Someone gets caught on video engaging in corruption/racism/etc. "Wasn't me. Fake news."

It's really not going to be a boon for society, that's for sure.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Deep fakes are videos where the voice and image of the person are generated by computer. There are even rather basic ones that though fairly obvious, are good enough to be a bit frightening. I would skip the first half of this video and get into the actual fakes themselves. There were made with just a laptop:


So what happens when the President of the U.S. can be made to say anything that a faker wants him to say and it will be almost impossible to tell from the real thing?

I guess someone will have to come up with a program to be able to spot these fakes. And then every message will have to go through an analyzer to determine if it's genuine or not.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

The video that I linked shows that not only are faces faked now, voices are too. If one can mimic the words used and do a very minimal interpretation the technology does the rest. Your first video has the face, but the voice is bad. The hand gestures were poorly done and that is not "faked" yet. I am sure that soon a human actor will not be needed at all. One simply would choose the person to be faked, and a script provided.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It seems that it would be difficult to pull this off for any public or official purposes, since there'd be enough eyes on it that someone would check.
One thing that video pointed out was that false stories initially spread much faster than true ones. Dramatic stories tend to do that. A well timed deep fake right before an election may still have an effect before it is debunked.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
It seems that it would be difficult to pull this off for any public or official purposes, since there'd be enough eyes on it that someone would check.

One thing that video pointed out was that false stories initially spread much faster than true ones. Dramatic stories tend to do that. A well timed deep fake right before an election may still have an effect before it is debunked.
"Lies make it halfway around the world before the truth straps on its boots."
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
Deep fakes are videos where the voice and image of the person are generated by computer. There are even rather basic ones that though fairly obvious, are good enough to be a bit frightening. I would skip the first half of this video and get into the actual fakes themselves. There were made with just a laptop:


So what happens when the President of the U.S. can be made to say anything that a faker wants him to say and it will be almost impossible to tell from the real thing?
They could actually deceive into thinking that someone who is dead is still alive.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Given the current state of the world, we almost don't need deep fakes because of how people's confirmation biases are working. It will, to be sure, worse the better the fakery becomes.
It should soon be possible to loose "the Man [or Woman] Who Never Was" upon the masses...in which case, welcome to 1984 and the other distopias...I think we're much closer to that than most would imagine...
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I just thought of another possibility for this technology. You could use it to superimpose your own face (and those of your friends and family) on to your favorite movie or TV characters and become an instant star.

Imagine you performing in this iconic scene:

 
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