I notice that you changed the wording &@Revoltingest How does " A belief that supreme beings do not exist" and " the doctrine or belief that there is no God" differ?
meaning of the 2nd definition.
So the question does not apply to my post.
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I notice that you changed the wording &@Revoltingest How does " A belief that supreme beings do not exist" and " the doctrine or belief that there is no God" differ?
I notice that you changed the wording &
meaning of the 2nd definition.
So the question does not apply to my post.
Atheism: A belief that supreme beings do not exist, have never existed, and have no responsibility for the universe, its inhabitant, or their behavior.
Atheism is broader than that.
A better source...one that comports with how
we atheists use the term in this age...
Definition of atheism | Dictionary.com
Excerpted....
noun
1 the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2 disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Didn't work.I was trying to make it simpler.
Didn't work.
You changed the 2nd definition instead of asking aboutYou're making this more than it needs to be, sheesh. Do I bring it out in you or something or can't help it?
You changed the 2nd definition instead of asking about
the two in dictionary.com. This is unproductive.
If you want to have a discussion, it's better to ask
questions that address my posts....not a straw man.
Then you modified the 2nd to be the same.I single out number one for a reason.
Then you modified the 2nd to be the same.
This is mischievous. If I cooperated with it,
I'd be encouraging it. That would be wrong.
Questioning an altered post of mine inspires ignoring it.It's been 6 years and you pop up with a comment but then don't like to be questioned on it.
I'm formerly both from atheistic and theistic Satanism. What I am currently into what I consider diabolism (dark or forbidden arts, sinister witchcraft, etc. a hobby really) and diabolatry (devil worship, the veneration of dark or forbidden deities/muses). I'm still rooted in Satanism, Luciferianism, Wicca and neopaganism but moving onto something beyond them. (Not better just beyond) Maybe something entirely different.theistic Satanism/devil-worship: the worship of one or more occult entities
So, neither Atheism nor its sister ism/s are the default position/no-position, only invented later, right, please?We all have our definitions of what our 'isms are. Here is a general list, if, by chance a seeker or curious person (and other) would like to know what is what.
Agnosticism: The agnostic neither confirms nor denies existence of a supreme being but believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of a supreme being or of anything beyond material phenomena. In other words, understanding the presence or nature of a supreme being is felt to be beyond human understanding.They remain neutral on the subject because they believe that, at our present level of knowledge, we cannot prove that a God exists or that does not exist.
Atheism: A belief that supreme beings do not exist, have never existed, and have no responsibility for the universe, its inhabitant, or their behavior.
Autotheism: The idea that divinity is present in each person with an implied responsibility for each one to become more perfectly divine.
Deism: Belief in the existence of at least one Supreme Being specifically of a creator who made the universe but thereafter did not intervene in its functions. This relates to the "Deist" intellectual movement of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries which accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacted with humankind.
Polydeism is similar, but suggest that the universe was created by multiple supreme beings.
Dualism suggests the universe contains opposing powers of good and evil either as balanced equals or as two opposed or contrasted supreme beings--literally or metaphorically.
Henotheism suggest that while there may be multiple supreme beings responsible for the universe, only one supreme deity which is correctly worshiped at a given time. For example, this one supreme God who rules over a country, and many other gods and goddesses who have similar jurisdiction over other territories.
Hylozoism proposes that all matter opposes life without necessarily possessing a "mind". For example, the ancient Greeks believed air, water, and fire were alive because they were able to move spontaneously, make sound, etc. Hylozoism is more philosophy than religion, but its useful in understanding how the ancients regarded physical matter an how belief systems may have developed. The opposite of hylozolism is panpsychism which says that all matter has a unique point of view or way of being.
Immanence: An immanent perspective says that divinity is internal rather than external and tells us we need to look no further than within ourselves to find divine source. In animism, all things are divine or potentially divine, and all divinity is imminent rather than transcendent, example, beyond the reach and range of the human being.
Kethenotheism suggest that multiple supreme beings may be responsible for the universe, and only one is correctly worshiped at certain times and under set circumstances.
Monolatrism argues that while multiple supreme beings may be responsible for the universe, only one is worthy of worship.
Montheism is the doctrine or belief that there is only one Surpreme being.
Nontheism rejects any belief system incorporating one or more supreme beings, while simultaneously supporting a naturalist point of view, for example, that the universe is organized and ordered according to a set of immutable natural laws. A Pagan who follows no deities but finds spiritual direction in nature is behaving as a nontheist.
Pantheism is a term with three distinct contextual meanings. First, it is a doctrine associating a single supreme being with the universe or regarding the universe as a manifestation of a single "responsible" supreme being. Second, one or more gods are seen as equivalent to the physical univierse, with no separation between them. Third, it may refer to a form of worship that admits or tolerates the worship or adoration of all gods.
Panentheism:
Definition 1: Like pantheism, panentheism identifies a relationship between the universe and one or more supreme beings, with little or no separation between the two. However, panentheism sees the supreme beings as greater rather than the whole of the physical universe
Definition 2: The Universe is itself divine, and is a part of the Divine itself.
Essentially, the physical Universe is god(s), but god(s) is the physical Universe and more.
Definition 3: Essentially a combination of theism (God is the supreme being) and pantheism (God is everything). While pantheism says that God and the universe are coextensive, panentheism claims the God is greater than the universe and that the universe is contained within God. Panentheism holds that God is the “supreme effect” of the universe. God is everything in the universe, but God also is greater than the universe. Events and changes in the universe affect and change God. As the universe grows and learns, God also increases in knowledge and being.
Pantheon is a term used to described all the gods of a people or religion collectively.
Polytheism proposes that the universe includes multiple supreme beings, each with unique origins, attributes, and characteristics.
Reconstruction is a system that bases its teachings on known facts and scholarship about a set of original practices.
Sacred is a tradition dedicated to one or more gods and their worship and service
Secularism is a system intended to separate the sacred from legal, political, and governmental discourse. Secularism neither accepts or denies religious belief, but espouses individual freedom of choice and says human activities should be free of religious persuasion
Shamanism: A shaman has access to and is able to influence the spirit world. They intercede between humans and the gods, particularly in terms of divining and healing.
Syncretism is merging or attempted merging of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought
Theism is the belief in the existence of a supreme being or beings especially a belief in one supreme entity as a creator of the universe, intervening intentionally and sustaining a personal relationship to its creatures
Totemism is a practice centered on objects, relics, locations, or ancestors believed to have sacred significance or to be a locus of origins
Transcendence: A transcendent perspective says that divinity is external and beyond the range and reach of mortal humans. The transcendent view suggest we must specifically look outside of ourselves and "transcend" our human boundaries and constraints to reach the divine, which is typically located in as supreme being.
Llewellyn's 2014 Magical Almanac
Animism: The attribution of a soul to plants, inanimate objects, and natural phenomena and the belief in a supernatural power that organizes and animates the material universe.
Wikipedia
(Added/Changing to more accurate definitions from sources posted below)
Do you have any isms to contribute here?