The Worst is Yet to Come

[The Hammer]

States France's president Macron, after talks with Putin.

France's Macron thinks 'the worst is yet to come' in Ukraine after talking with Putin, reports say

 

[sun rise]

Sadly I think he's right. I think putin will destroy Ukraine utterly unless his invasion is repulsed or someone takes him out.

 

[Truthseeker]

States France's president Macron, after talks with Putin.

France's Macron thinks 'the worst is yet to come' in Ukraine after talking with Putin, reports say

He will conquer Ukraine, but I think he already regrets this invasion. The opposition has been stiffer than his deluded mind thought would be. He has departed from rationality that he had in previous moves he made. In the end Ukraine will be devastated, but so will Russia in a lesser way, and Putin himself will come to a bad end himself I would guess.

 

[Truthseeker]

Sadly I think he's right. I think putin will destroy Ukraine utterly unless his invasion is repulsed or someone takes him out.

There's no way for his invasion to be repulsed. His forces are much larger than Ukraines, and it would risky for Nato to intervene in Ukraine. Nato would give Putin a reason to rally his nation, plus there is the risk since Putin has nuclear weapons. Someone in the government taking him out would be nice.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's no way for his invasion to be repulsed. His forces are much larger than Ukraines, and it would risky for Nato to intervene in Ukraine. Nato would give Putin a reason to rally his nation, plus there is the risk since Putin has nuclear weapons. Someone in the government taking him out would be nice.

It's ironic that Putin could use the nuclear
weapons that Ukraine turned over to Russia.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Putin has made the biggest mistake of his life - in expecting a short war or none, as per Crimea, has not anticipated the response from the USA, Europe, and the world in general (as to sanctions and support), and has misjudged the feelings of the majority of Ukrainians - allegiance to their democracy and as to fighting back. Plus he seems to have miscalculated the affinity of so many Russians with those Ukrainians who might be family or friends - hence why he has to shut down the media (even more) so as to prevent trouble at home. He is in the wrong and probably knows it, and despite all his rhetoric probably realises his big mistake and yearns for a solution that won't lose him face.

An old speech writer for Putin was on the radio last night and saying much the same (alluding to trophies for Putin rather than losing face), and I would tend to trust someone like this who would likely know Putin much better than most. Also, although the Chinese have denied such, it has been proposed that the Chinese leader insisted that Putin wait until the Olympic games were over before attacking, and this might account for the slow progress seemingly made as to a takeover - using too much weaponry and other issues, for example, during these 'exercises' or preparation for invasion as they will now be known. And hence why he had to keep on saying, 'we will not invade', although his definition of 'invade' might also be the issue - just a policing action, but involving the whole country (and regime change of course).

Of course, like most, I have no idea how this will end.

 

[PureX]

As the US has learned (hopefully), it's one thing to defeat a nation's army, but it's another to defeat a nation. The occupation can become very costly and exhausting when the people don't want to cooperate. The glory of conquest very soon fades and leaves a long, arduous occupation that rarely results in a big net gain for the occupiers.

Putin may save face, but he'll lose his arse in the end.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Hopefully the best is also yet to come. Might have to endure more of the worst though, before it does.

Actually Ukraine - and Russia - has experienced no shortage of hard times in the last century or so.

 

[Martin]

Hopefully the best is also yet to come. Might have to endure more of the worst though, before it does.

Actually Ukraine - and Russia - has experienced no shortage of hard times in the last century or so.

Ukraine suffered terribly at the hands of the Nazis in 1941. One of the reasons why Putin's rhetoric about now overthrowing "fascists" in Ukraine is a sick joke.

 

[Ponder This]

States France's president Macron, after talks with Putin.

France's Macron thinks 'the worst is yet to come' in Ukraine after talking with Putin, reports say

To be clear, Putin would have to kill millions of Ukrainian civilians in order to conquer Ukraine. So when we talk about things getting much worse, it's important to understand that Putin's only option to conquer Ukraine is to systematically annihilate their people.

 

[Truthseeker]

It's ironic that Putin could use the nuclear
weapons that Ukraine turned over to Russia.

At the time Ukraine gave them up, it was guaranteed by the US and Russia that Ukraine would be safe. However, this shows how leaders change over time, and earlier agreements become a dead letter.

 

[Truthseeker]

Ukraine suffered terribly at the hands of the Nazis in 1941. One of the reasons why Putin's rhetoric about now overthrowing "fascists" in Ukraine is a sick joke.

Many Ukrainians in the Soviet Union starved to death under Stalin in the 1930s also. Naturally, at first, they regarded Germany as liberators.

 

[Truthseeker]

He will conquer Ukraine, but I think he already regrets this invasion. The opposition has been stiffer than his deluded mind thought would be. He has departed from rationality that he had in previous moves he made. In the end Ukraine will be devastated, but so will Russia in a lesser way, and Putin himself will come to a bad end himself I would guess.

Actually from an analysis I saw today, Putin is still popular in Russia, because they seem to be ignorant of how bad it is(just like Stalin was while he was doing terrible things people were ignorant about) so he probably won't fall out of power because of this. Economically the Russian people will suffer, but Putin will make sure, because he controls the media, to blame this on other nations, and many will believe him. However, I would hate to be him in the next life.