The worst pain..

[Shadow Wolf]

I think it hurts mentally, but helps the healing process to talk about great pains.
And I wonder, does any one think or know they have had pains worse than pregnancy. My uncle was told the pain from his kindney stones was far worse than pregnancy, so I know greater pains do excist.
Im pretty sure the pain of a torn ACL is worse than pregnancy. It just hurts. I tried to suplex a guy during a wrestling match, and when I done a small jump to help the guy jump high enough so I could supplex him easily, and then the other guy (it was a triple threat) tried to tackle me, and instead of hiting my back, hit the back of my knee. I felt a very strong pop from my knee, then I felt my bones in my knee shift around, followed by a very intense, explosive pain in my whole leg, lower and almost all of my upper body. I remember tring to get up, and falling down again. The ref did his motion to let people back stage (not the correct term, but close enough) know the injury is real. I tried yet again to get up, and I fell into the ropes. I told the ref I'm going to finish the match. I did finish, limping really badly, by having one of my oponents take the other out with a chair, then I did the best I could to kick the chair into the face of the other opponent (the Vandaminator for those who follow pro-wrestling). I had to have the ref help me out of the ring, and I limped back to the locker room, grabed my stuff, and headed home. I didn't even bother to change into my normal clothes. I figured it just pain from hyper-extension, and nothing was wrong. Next morning, I was still in severe pain. It was saturday, and the doctors office was closed, so I headed to the ER for x-rays, only to find out I'll have to wait for a cat-scan on Monday. I was givin a knee-imobolizer and some Darvocet.:bounce
Monday, day of my finals, I had a cat-scan, and found out it was a torn ACL the next day.
I don't want, or expect to get sympathy from people, I just find talking about this helps heal the mental pain, and maybe it will help for others.
And BTW, if there are any female members here who have givin birth and tore one of thier ACL's, which do you think is worse? Im going to guess the torn ACL, since some women want more kids. I don't see any reason to tear my other acl, even if I would get a couple weeks off of work.

 

[KirbyFan101]

A kidney stone is the worst pain a male can feel from a mainsteam medical condition apparently, and is comparable to childbirth.

A bad case of kidney stones (ones that cannot be broken down through supersonics) might be more painful than a very textbook childbirth, but a natural birth that goes for 48 hours of labour would have to be pretty bad.

As for the worst kind of pain: Edit: That scene in Ichi:The Killer where the guy is on hooks having thin steel rods poked through his face whilst people our boiling water on his back: I think thats pretty close.

 

[Ceridwen018]

since some women want more kids. I don't see any reason to tear my other acl, even if I would get a couple weeks off of work.

Hehe--that seems like pretty sound logic to me.

I've neither given birth nor torn my ACL. The most painful thing that ever happened to me was when I dislocated my right shoulder for the first time. I was at a rating competition with my young horse, (a competition where they test not only riding ability, but knowledge and horsemanship as well). I was standing in the arena with my horse all alone while I waited for the judge to come in and see me, when my over-dramatic mount got scared at something and reared straight into the air. I had been holding the reins in my right hand, which was jerked quickly upward as my horse pulled up on the reins. I heard a pop when my arm went up, (the dislocation), and another pop as it fell back down, (I was lucky--it popped right back in). At first I had no feeling in my arm and I didn't know what had happened. All I could think was, "How am I going to ride with one arm? Stupid crazy horse! The judge is going to be here any minute, eek!" I started swinging my arm back and forth, and eventually feeling came back and it I could move it again. I carried on with the rating and all was well. The next morning my arm and shoulder were so sore I could barely touch or move them. I wore a sling for the rest of the week, and even today I have to do different yoga-ish stretches to maintain the strength and mobility of that shoulder so it won't pop out as easily again.

I sympathize with you, Luke Wolf. I have a few friends who have torn ACL's, and it wasn't a fun experience for them at all. Are you all healed up now and back wrestling?

 

[Pah]

My top of the scale, one to ten, pain is the one experienced when conscience for a cardioversion (the electric shock to stop and re-start the heart). Three ocassions it's been used on me while I was awake. I have left orders, that if neccessary again, that I be allowed to first pass out from a non-functional heart and risk death (little chance if they are right there). Fortunetly, I have an internal defilulator that delivers a shock direct to the heart (not through the chest) and it is a much lower voltage which only feels like someone kicked me in the back of the head - a four on that "pain scale". And even more fortunetly, I have been taking medication to prevent the abnormally fast and deadly rhythm from even starting - so no internal shocks for more than ten years.

Let's hear it for medicine :clap

 

[Draka]

Alrighty then...as for kidney stones...I have not passed any myself, but I have known a couple women who have and both have said passing the stones did not compare to when they gave birth.

I have not had a torn ACL, but I have had severe neck and back injuries suffered from a car wreck, fell into a ravine and landed racked across a fallen tree, and a few other things that I would not want to do again. Childbirth is extremely painful...but the thing is that you all but forget the pain you just endured when that tiny precious life you brought into the world gets placed in your arms. It makes the excrutiating pain worth it many times over...hence why women have more than one child. Nothing compares to what a woman goes through in labor and birth, but at the same time...nothing compares to the reward for enduring that pain. It is the most joyful, striking pain ever in existence. Don't compare any pain to it...for what other pain has the rewards it does? None.

 

[michel]

My top of the scale, one to ten, pain is the one experienced when conscience for a cardioversion (the electric shock to stop and re-start the heart). Three ocassions it's been used on me while I was awake. I have left orders, that if neccessary again, that I be allowed to first pass out from a non-functional heart and risk death (little chance if they are right there). Fortunetly, I have an internal defilulator that delivers a shock direct to the heart (not through the chest) and it is a much lower voltage which only feels like someone kicked me in the back of the head - a four on that "pain scale". And even more fortunetly, I have been taking medication to prevent the abnormally fast and deadly rhythm from even starting - so no internal shocks for more than ten years.

Let's hear it for medicine :clap

here here - I echo that sentiment. Bravo medicine; mind you there are areas where the doctor is still in the dark............

I was offered ellectro convulsive therapy for my depression some twenty years ago; I was ready to accept anything that might help, but My wife dug her toes in on that one and said that she would not want me to have it done (she had done as much research as she could, and honestly believed that the chances of it 'curing' the depression totally were minimal - and the side effects (especially relating to memory far outweighed the benefits.)

Yhe worst pain I have ever had was when the anesthatist forgot to pump me full of morphine after having replaced the whole of my hip joint (New ball, and socket, and other socket onto a long steel pin that is hammered into the femur) - I have recollections of waking myself up with a terrible screaming, but I can't remember what the pain was like - I think perhaps the brain shuts off if the pain is that unbearable. The scar is, after all going on for 18 inches - and the surgeon inadvertently fractured the hip bone during the procedure!

Apart from that, I get pains from trapped wind - I am told they are much like the pains due to a heart attack - The danger is, too, that the symptoms are much the same - incredible chest pain - the sweat actually breaks out when I have one of these attacks - they are that bad; it is accompanied by bad pain in the jawbone - which apparently is again a similar sympton as that of a heart attack - I usually get one attack/week - though I often have two or three in a row; poor Marie has to sit there, and pray it's not the heart - many is the time when I have stopped her for dialing for an ambulance.....

 

[Bastet]

From what I have heard, kidney stones are called the male equivalent of childbirth, but I don't think that in general the pain from them is worse than childbirth. I was birth partner for a friend of mine 5 years ago, and after watching what she went through (she didn't have an epidural), and watching that kid come out, I'd hesitate to say that any pain I've been through is worse than that. Before the birth she said she couldn't understand how women would say that giving birth was the worst pain they've ever felt, but that they forgot about the pain afterwards. Once she had her son in her arms, she said she understood.

The worst pain I've suffered through personally was when I was having gallstones attacks before I got my gallbladder out. Absolutely nothing would dull the pain (painkillers were no good), the only way I could relieve it was to literally make myself throw up - and that only worked for a minute at a time. It wasn't much fun lol.

 

[Jaymes]

The worst pain I've ever been in was when I had spinal fusion. I remember that it hurt like hell to so much as twitch the wrong way, but it seems like every day that goes by I forget the pain itself, which is weird and a little disconcerting. It was mostly so bad because nothing they gave me could make it stop. Even with morphine and oral meds, it only got it to a level where I could grit my teeth and work through it.

I've been told the worst pain it is possible for a human to have is break to the femur.

 

[EnhancedSpirit]

I have given birth twice. Naturally. It was painful, and pleasurable at the same time.

Last week, I fell on the corner of a table and broke my butt bone. I have never felt so much pain in my whole life. And I have suffered from severe migraine headaches since I was 10 years old, so I am very accustomed to pain.

The butt bone, and they cannot do ANYTHING about it. They gave me some pain pills. I broke down and took one, but found that it just made me not be careful, and the next day I was in even more pain, because I had been careless with my injury bacause of the pain killers.

It hurts to lay on my back or my stomache, it hurts to sit and even worse to get back up again. Driving is impossible. It hurts to cough, it hurts to have my 3 year old on my lap. It hurts to bend over and it hurts to pick things up.

I have not taken any more pain pills, and I use the LaMaz technique of breathing to get through the painfull moments (it actually works), or I say 'ow, ow, ow, ow' as I get up, that helps too. I guess, nothing really helps, it hurts, it hurts ALOT.

 

[jamaesi]

Two back surgeries is the most pain I have ever been in, and I'm going to need more in the future. It hurts to breathe after one of those, not to mention movement.

The fact that my back hurts constantly now and there's nothing I can do for it but take painkillers makes me never want to attempt childbirth.

My doctor also now doesn't even try to do the "Pain Scale" with me because I have a high pain tolerance. I'll say four when other people would say ten. I had a herniated disc that should have kept me from walking but I was still trying to live a normal life which really surprised him. Now whenever I complain of pain he takes me very seriously which is very nice. When I had strep throat nine times in one winter (Hi, immune system defiency!) a doctor told me I was faking it and other doctors let that same disc go undiagnosed for a year because I was too young to be in any real pain.

 

[michel]

Two back surgeries is the most pain I have ever been in, and I'm going to need more in the future. It hurts to breathe after one of those, not to mention movement.

The fact that my back hurts constantly now and there's nothing I can do for it but take painkillers makes me never want to attempt childbirth.

My doctor also now doesn't even try to do the "Pain Scale" with me because I have a high pain tolerance. I'll say four when other people would say ten. I had a herniated disc that should have kept me from walking but I was still trying to live a normal life which really surprised him. Now whenever I complain of pain he takes me very seriously which is very nice. When I had strep throat nine times in one winter (Hi, immune system defiency!) a doctor told me I was faking it and other doctors let that same disc go undiagnosed for a year because I was too young to be in any real pain.

I know exactly what you mean about the pain scale bit - I asked my Doctor how he would describe my pain, and he told me somewhere about 8 most days - which to me translates into something more like 4; and I have no where further to go on opain killers, other than morphine tablets - which scare me.........

Oh and another coincidense Jamaesi, my arthritic hip went undiagnosed for two years because the doctor didn't look at the Xrays properly - so I know how that feels too. You have all my simpathy; if I moan because I am only 56, how angry must you feel?

Another thing - I am going to have to go for an afternoon nap (although I want to stay on the forum) - but pain is so tiring; I am sure you must know all about that, as would Jensa, no doubt.

 

[Jaymes]

I have not taken any more pain pills, and I use the LaMaz technique of breathing to get through the painfull moments (it actually works), or I say 'ow, ow, ow, ow' as I get up, that helps too. I guess, nothing really helps, it hurts, it hurts ALOT.

Heheh, saying 'ow' or something similar really does help On the way home from the hospital when we were going down the interstate, every time we'd hit a bump I'd cling to the bar on the door and go 'easy!' even though I knew you can't exactly drive 'easier' over interstate. Just saying something helped.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I've been told the worst pain it is possible for a human to have is break to the femur.

When my brother, who was 27 at the time, broke his from a car wreck, it almost brought him to tears. I remember being back in the pre-surgery room, he was screaming whenever someone would move him, cuss out everyone who asked him about insurance, start cussing when the pain flared up, cussed out the nurse that told him to watch his language because there was other people in that room. He was thirsty, and told a doctor he could give him a rectum scan (to check for internal bleeding), only if he gave him a drink of water.
He only remembers a few things between his when the wreck happened, up to a few days after his 3rd surgery.
I don't know exactly how much, but considering he went into shock several times, it must have been bad.

 

[Scuba Pete]

I have sleep apnea. I had surgery to correct this called "PPPP" (Partial palatal pharyngo plasty). He also removed my tonsils and broke my nose to correct a deviated septum. They gave me demoral on demand to ease the pain post surgery, but they failed to notice that I am allergic to demerol. One hit and I never hit the button again. The surgeon told me that after I spent the night that I would need to stop by to have the packing removed.

So I am in pain and have had little relief through the night. I arrive at the surgeon's office and am sitting in a reclining chair/torture rack with restraining straps. He tells me that the packing is like a really big tampon stuck up each of my nostrils. Funny, I don't see any "strings" attached.

So he pulls up a chrome bucket, straps me solidly into the chair, mumbles something about the possibility of me passing out and commences to pull the packing out of my nose.

Time compresses here. The clarity with which I remember this episode in my life is almost painful in itself. I feel a suction develop in my right occular sinal cavity. This quickly escalates to pain and then to a white hot focused pain which is mitigated slightly by explosive vomitous. The surgeon was not entirely successful negotiating my "spew" and I feel my consciousness slipping as my nostrils are filled with the noxious odor of the contents of the bucket. I pass out. I am revived by an ammonia inhalant which while it hurts the senses under normal circumstances, terrorizes them under these particular ones.

He says "One more" as I recoil in shock and try to pull my head away. Fortunately, with the other nasal passage open there is no "suction" and the packing pulls out easily. As he does this, I notice that it is larger than ANY tampon that I have ever seen (not that I have that many, mind you). He unfortunately left the plastic expanding splints in place in both nostrils. They will cause additional pain as they harbor infection in a few days, but nothing comparable to what I just went through. I take my first tentative step and find that my body has lost all strength as I pitch forward to the floor. Thankfully I turn my head and the impact misses my broken nose.

Epilogue: The surgery did not impact my episodes of sleep apnea and now I sleep with a CPAP machine. If given the choice, I would reccomend that you avoid this surgery.

 

[justa_gurl]

nerve damage anyone?

About 19 months ago i started getting these pains in my head that were so severe i would pace and scream and bash my head into a wall to divert myself from the intense pain. They grew worse and worse. Once, i uknowingly tore the skin of my thighs through a pair of jeans when i braced myself from the pain in my head. Suffice it to say they were clearly not your typical migranes, yeah?

Turns out that pesky little never center in the brain stem, which controls your sense of heat and pain, had somehow gone haywire and released all the eletrical signals it had stored up - in case i was burned alive or who knows what - into my head in one agonizing blow. At least that's what they think causes it. I've seen more specialists than i care to count, been diagnosed four differant times with three highly rare conditions and still no one knows for sure.

Anyway, i've given birth, broken bones, even had a severe kidney infection that nearly killed me but nothing so far has come close to one of these (did i mention i have them 1-5 times daily)? But the worst part is, with normal nerve pinches and the like, you can target the area and humb it with a good dose of narcotics. Apparently, that doesn't work in this case and presently there aren't any narcotics, opiates, steroids, triptons or any other drug for that matter that has worked to even lighten the pain of one of these attacks. Believe me if there is, i'll find it.

Yet all considering, i'm not complaining. A lot of people suffer similar or worse conditions than mine in varying degrees; Chronic Paroxysmal Hemicrania, Trigeminal Neurolgia, and CHS among other disorders are all said to deal with that pesky little nerve up in your noggin. I've heard many stories of women who'd rather give birth everyday for the rest of their lives than suffer them and you know what, they damn well mean it. But my point isn't to prostrate or compaire one pain over another but to inform you that these type of conditions exist. If anyone's interested or wants to support the cause, you can find some good testimonies and resources through here..

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/

 

[Sunstone]

By far, the worse pain imaginable is caused by listening to a bimbo talk show host attempt to discuss something more complex than tying shoelaces, such as intelligent design or evolutionary theory. I heard a bimbo talk show host try to do that just yesterday and he was so unprepared for the discussion that he didn't even know what a falsifiable hypothesis was.

 

[justa_gurl]

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[Ceridwen018]

Wow, you people are all so brave! I haven't even heard of half the things you've been through! I raise my glass of grape coolade to you all in a toast of awe and admiration!

 

[Jaymes]

Sunstone: That is, perhaps, the worst kind of pain imaginable... pain to the soul. [insert a solemn nod here]

 

[jamaesi]

Oh and another coincidense Jamaesi, my arthritic hip went undiagnosed for two years because the doctor didn't look at the Xrays properly - so I know how that feels too. You have all my simpathy; if I moan because I am only 56, how angry must you feel?

Sounds like my back. I got x-rays of it when the pain started and they said "wow, you have scoliosis, but that´s not what´s causing all the pain annnnd well that´s all we care to see. Off you go!" Instead of like, you know, ordering an MRI right away instead of waiting half a year.

It took them forever to take my arthritis seriously, too. It started with just pain in my knee and spread to almost all of my joints before a doctor diagnosed it. Then that doctor decided since I am under 18 he was no longer going to treat me and destroyed my medical records. It was fun trying to find another doctor to take me seriously about it. >:{! I go to an adult-only practice for my migraines (that last for at least two weeks at a time) so I think it´s bull that he dropped me.

It will be rather fun to find a doctor in Brasil who will do something about my scoliosis, stenosis, arthritis, and degenerative disc disease.