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Theistic Evolution vs Intelligent Design?

Dante Writer

Active Member
It is categorically not my opinion that he said the following (emphasis Sapiens'):

"Well, it could come about in the following way: it could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved by probably some kind of Darwinian means to a very, very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto, perhaps, this planet. Now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of our chemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer, and that designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe. But that higher intelligence would itself have had to have come about by some explicable, or ultimately explicable, process. It couldn't have just jumped into existence spontaneously. That's the point."

This is not a simple matter of opinion. His words are there. Do you deny them?


Again, you're spouting nonsense. There is a singular THEORY of evolution which encompasses the variable explanations and mechanisms that are proposed to explain evolution. All of the things you quoted are various mechanisms and subjects WITHIN evolutionary theory - except for a couple, which were competing hypotheses. The theory of evolution is a broad explanatory framework encompassing a variety of fields of study, competing hypotheses and explanations. This is not difficult to understand.


1- Now show us all where he used the word "panspermia" in that description? You can't and that is a word you threw in to justify your agenda.

2- There is a definition of the science of evolution. There is no one theory of evolution as there are many theories of evolution.

Here is one theory that has no natural selection involved:

Symbiogenesis, or endosymbiotic theory, is an evolutionary theory that explains the origin of eukaryotic cells from prokaryotes. It states that several key organellesof eukaryotes originated as a symbiosis between separate single-celled organisms. According to this theory, mitochondria, plastids (for example chloroplasts), and possibly other organelles representing formerly free-living bacteria (prokaryotes) were taken inside another cell as an endosymbiont around 1.5 billion years ago. Molecular and biochemical evidence suggest that mitochondria developed from proteobacteria (in particular, Rickettsiales, the SAR11 clade,[1][2] or close relatives) and chloroplasts from cyanobacteria (in particular, nitrogen-fixing filamentous cyanobacteria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis

As you can clearly see that is an Evolutionary theory so there is no ONE theory of evolution as you claim only a science of evolution that includes many theories.

This line of debate is now over- you have been shown the facts with the links and if you can not accept that it is not my problem.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
1- Now show us all where he used the word "panspermia" in that description? You can't and that is a word you threw in to justify your agenda.
:facepalm:
Do you know what panspermia is?

2- There is a definition of the science of evolution. There is no one theory of evolution as there are many theories of evolution.
I'm tired of explaining this...

Here is one theory that has no natural selection involved:

Symbiogenesis, or endosymbiotic theory, is an evolutionary theory that explains the origin of eukaryotic cells from prokaryotes. It states that several key organellesof eukaryotes originated as a symbiosis between separate single-celled organisms. According to this theory, mitochondria, plastids (for example chloroplasts), and possibly other organelles representing formerly free-living bacteria (prokaryotes) were taken inside another cell as an endosymbiont around 1.5 billion years ago. Molecular and biochemical evidence suggest that mitochondria developed from proteobacteria (in particular, Rickettsiales, the SAR11 clade,[1][2] or close relatives) and chloroplasts from cyanobacteria (in particular, nitrogen-fixing filamentous cyanobacteria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis
Again, this is a theory WITHIN evolution, not a separate and/or conflicting theory. It is PART of evolutionary theory.

As you can clearly see that is an Evolutionary theory so there is no ONE theory of evolution as you claim only a science of evolution that includes many theories.
No, there is a THEORY of evolution which includes many explanatory frameworks, one of which is symbiosis.

This line of debate is now over- you have been shown the facts with the links and if you can not accept that it is not my problem.
Projection is not your friend.
 

Dante Writer

Active Member
:facepalm:
Do you know what panspermia is?


I'm tired of explaining this...


Again, this is a theory WITHIN evolution, not a separate and/or conflicting theory. It is PART of evolutionary theory.


No, there is a THEORY of evolution which includes many explanatory frameworks, one of which is symbiosis.


Projection is not your friend.

This line of debate is now finished- go start your own discussion instead of trolling mine.
 
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