Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Because I do not see truth in your words (sorry)
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Then you should change the teaching.
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Father Heathen
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What if I offered some refreshing Kool-Aid?
What flavor?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Nice joke. But nothing of spiritual wisdom
I think that largely depends on the particular scripture and how it was created.
If I look at Christian scriptures (due to my own relative knowledge) then the Bible itself isn't the direct, unfiltered word of God. It's also been translated. And the books of the Bible have been compiled based on decisions made by humans.
The messages of the scripture ranges from clear to allegorical or even opaque in places. And where clear, they still need to be interpreted in terms of how they relate to modern concepts, technologies and politics which didn't exist 2000+ years ago.
So...whilst I have some agreement with your statement (if I were a believer), I also don't think anyone saying scripture is the unsullied, uninterpreted and unambiguous word if God is being honest with themselves.
Are you suggesting that everyone who hears a prophet speak is convinced they are a prophet?
That doesn't seem a well-supported position.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Tropical punch, fortified with entheogens.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Which God? Which scripture? Yahweh said something different from the Christian God, the Christian God said something different from the Muslim God, the Muslim God said something different from the Bahai God, the Bahai God said something different from the Hindu God, so on and so forth. So which God should we believe? Which scripture?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
What is spiritual wisdom?Nice joke. But nothing of spiritual wisdom
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
No
those who are spiritual open and seekers will have a bigger understanding, those who doubt or refuse to hear the truth will still not understand or accept the Prophets words. (In my understanding)
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
What prophet speak are spiritual wisdom.
Heyo
Veteran Member
What are your criteria to "see truth" and why are they more reliable than mine?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
That is not much of an offer. Yahweh will not even sniff it (he rejected Cain's offer). Offer something more insubstantial, like eternal life, heaven.
Meh. No thanks. Tropical punch isn't really my thing. I threw it up once, and never liked it after that.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
In this thread I speak of the truth told in religious scriptures.
But there are of course different understanding of this truth according to whom you speak with.
Example, I do not hold the full truth or understanding of religious scriptures.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Nor does anybody else. There are about 4000 gods in human history each one with multiple prophets (10? on average) for a total of 40,000 different "truths" and no mechanism to decide.
You are exactly right!
Although, with regard to the Bible, it is a BIG Book, and it has many symbolic statements which can be construed in many different ways. Resulting in multitudinous interpretations!
Though IMO, the writers of the Bible were governed by one Author (Jehovah God / Yahweh), and He has a set of values and truth which are united, and do not conflict with each other.
That being said, since the Bible tells us those unifying thoughts — His thoughts, there is only one correct understanding which only He reveals (Luke 10:21). And is gradual. — Proverbs 4:18.
How God wants humans to behave is pretty clear, though. (1 John 4:8; Philippians 2:3-4) And the counsel @ 1 Corinthians 6:18, which many in the world scoffs at, is actually a first step in protecting the wellbeing of children… Can you see the benefits? Also restrains the spread of STD’s.
Take care, my cousin!
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Actually it exist 25.000 spiritual paths in this world. Some hidden cultivating paths, but they are there.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Okay. If you follow my teachings, you'll gain eternal life and heaven.
Post mortem promises are easy to make because they're impossible to verify.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't know where you got this number (or what a "spiritual path" is) but anyway, as long as there are multiple paths and no way to decide which is the right, then I keep agnostic about all of them.