There are about 1000 gods. Is that evidence against God?

[Tiberius]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.
I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.
Here is a video by an atheist on this matter:

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

Of course, since the people who believe in the other Gods believe in their God just as strongly as you believe in yours, what's to say that it isn't their God who is allowing your belief to happen?

 

[Nivek001]

It's evidence that belief in any one of them
is to believe in something highly improbable

How do you determine that it’s improbable since in Christianity it’s believed that Jesus Christ wants us to act on faith not on any amount of evidence the whole world can see?

In order to determine anything is improbable you need to establish some facts to base the improbability, and to establish fact you need evidence. So, what evidence is there that leans to being improbable that there is a God who withholds evidence for the world to see on purpose because such a God wants us to rely on faith?

 

[Nivek001]

Of course, since the people who believe in the other Gods believe in their God just as strongly as you believe in yours, what's to say that it isn't their God who is allowing your belief to happen?

Try taking a leap of faith and try out what is taught personally and see what happens. That’s certainly one way for you to find out if what I believe in is true.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yet there is one way to find out if a person’s belief in a certain God who wants us to rely on faith is correct.

Since it’s not in the nature for such a being to push only reliance of evidence that the whole world can see, but to rely on faith, then there is only one way for a person to find out and that means to take a leap of faith and follow the believed teachings and see what happens for yourself if those teachings are true.

Also, if it’s believed that one can get assurance of truth through asking that God in prayer then one should take a leap of faith and ask God to let you know and see what happens.

Now I’m certain there are some who would claim to have done those things and they have either received no answer or a different answer than what I’ve experienced.

In those cases that means it’s one’s word vs. my word, and since one cannot use any evidence or use the point of lacking evidence to validate any argument because it’s believed that there is a God who wants us to act on faith and therefore willingly withholds evidence, then that means there is only one way to personally find out if there is such a God and that is to act on faith and seek answers in prayer and then see whether my belief in such a God is correct.

You're making postulates about traits of a god.
Others could be made. So we still have a
plethora of gods to choose from

 

[Revoltingest]

There’s one way to find out if Jesus Christ is the God to follow:
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. James 1:5-6 KJV

It’s believed one can receive those answers through The Holy Ghost:
26 But the Comforter, which is the HolyGhost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26 KJV

It’s believed one can get such assurances from the Holy Ghost by experiencing the following:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23 KJV

It seems rather circular to use scripture of a particular
god to justify that being the singular correct god.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.
I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.
Here is a video by an atheist on this matter:

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

Well done Thomas t

Regards Tony

 

[Nivek001]

It seems rather circular to use scripture of a particular
god to justify that being the singular correct god.

How is it circular? The challenge is open ended. There is no declaration saying that it is right just because it says so.

 

[Revoltingest]

How do you determine that it’s improbable since in Christianity it’s believed that Jesus Christ wants us to act on faith not on any amount of evidence the whole world can see?

Because there are so many other conflicting choices,
picking one from the many isn't likely to be correct.

In order to determine anything is improbable you need to establish some facts to base the improbability, and to establish fact you need evidence. So, what evidence is there that leans to being improbable that there is a God who withholds evidence for the world to see on purpose because such a God wants us to rely on faith?

I work with the facts we have.
1) All these many different gods.
2) They're all (or mostly all) different.
3) No objective & convincing evidence to pick one over the other.

 

[Revoltingest]

How is it circular? The challenge is open ended. There is no declaration saying that it is right just because it says so.

The Bible is about God.
Using the former to justify choosing the latter is a neat little
closed system. But it's no better than others available.

 

[Nivek001]

You're making postulates about traits of a god.
Others could be made. So we still have a
plethora of gods to choose from

And your proof that the traits in the God I believe I. are false is what?

If you have no proof to invalidate the beliefs what’s the problem with taking a leap if faith and find out if Jesus Christ is the God to follow?

It seems like you are counting your chickens before they are hatched.

 

[Nivek001]

Because there are so many other conflicting choices,
picking one from the many isn't likely to be correct.

I work with the facts we have.
1) All these many different gods.
2) They're all (or mostly all) different.
3) No objective & convincing evidence to pick one over the other.

How does conflicting choices means you cannot start with acting on faith somewhere and see if at least Jesus Christ is the way to go or not?

 

[Revoltingest]

And your proof that the traits in the God I believe I. are false is what?

I'm not saying that any of the gods in particular are false.
Only that with so many mutually exclusive ones to choose
from, a great many will be false. And it's not knowable
which are false.

If you have no proof to invalidate the beliefs what’s the problem with taking a leap if faith and find out if Jesus Christ is the God to follow?

It seems like you are counting your chickens before they are hatched.

I'm not disproving anyone's god.
I'm dealing with the issue of choosing
from thousands which one is correct.

 

[Revoltingest]

How does conflicting choices means you cannot start with acting on faith somewhere and see if at least Jesus Christ is the way to go or not?

Faith alone could lead to choosing any of the gods.
So that appears to be an inadequate method of
identifying the correct god

 

[Nivek001]

The Bible is about God.
Using the former to justify choosing the latter is a neat little
closed system. But it's no better than others available.

HOW is it a neat little closed system when the challenge is opened?

In order for it to be a closed system the message would be that the teachings are right because the teachings said so. That’s not the case here. The case here is to act on faith and see what happens.

 

[paarsurrey]

I don't know what you're asking for. Sorry.

It was devised by the Second Coming- the Promised Messiah 1835-1908 and was read out with its application by one of his Disciples in the Conference of Great Religions held at Lahore in 1896 in the then British India. The lecture titled " The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam" has since been translated in many world languages and is available online.
"The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam"* - Wikipedia
The principle is elaborated in its first two pages :
" It is necessary that a claim and the reasons in support of it must be set forth from a revealed book."
One may like to read it, please.
Right, please?

Regards
___________________
*https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

 

[Nivek001]

I'm not saying that any of the gods in particular are false.
Only that with so many mutually exclusive ones to choose
from, a great many will be false. And it's not knowable
which are false.

I'm not disproving anyone's god.
I'm dealing with the issue of choosing
from thousands which one is correct.

You are not making any sense. Where do you get that it’s reasonable that in order to find an answer you don’t start from somewhere?

 

[Nivek001]

Faith alone could lead to choosing any of the gods.
So that appears to be an inadequate method of
identifying the correct god

Well then,

Nothing proves it’s inadequate quite like “could” and “appears to be”. That appears to me you are simply being lazy and make an excuse to not bother to start searching from somewhere.

 

[Nivek001]

You're making postulates about traits of a god.
Others could be made. So we still have a
plethora of gods to choose from

So how does pointing out there are many places to start your search means you should not start a search from any place?

 

[Revoltingest]

HOW is it a neat little closed system when the challenge is opened?

In order for it to be a closed system the message would be that the teachings are right because the teachings said so. That’s not the case here. The case here is to act on faith and see what happens.

If one believes the Bible, one believes in God.
And vice versa.
But it would never convince Muslims, Hindus, etc
to convert to Christianity.

 

[paarsurrey]

HOW is it a neat little closed system when the challenge is opened?

In order for it to be a closed system the message would be that the teachings are right because the teachings said so. That’s not the case here. The case here is to act on faith and see what happens.

One is clearly suggesting to leap in the dark or a blind faith, I understand, and Jesus was against the blind faith:
“Can the blind lead the blind? Shall they not both fall into the ditch?"
Right friend, please?

Regards