McBell
Admiral Obvious
I don't agree.
At least not completely.
Seems to me that there are to many people who, because they are smart on one topic/subject, assume they are as equally smart in others.
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There are too many people who think they are smart in the world an that is why we are divided and in trouble.
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At least not completely.
Seems to me that there are to many people who, because they are smart on one topic/subject, assume they are as equally smart in others.
Wasn't talking about higher education (aka, college) - just general education and literacy. Point still stands regardless of your hair splitting here, but if you want to be a downer about things, go for it I guess. You'll have plenty of company as negativity is all the rage these days.
an anarchist
Your local anarchist.
Seems to me, then, that the smartest person is the King. The guy who directs the various smart people and have them convinced to do the King's bidding. Surely the supreme ruler is the wisest, for they control all of the smarts. Well, at any rate, a supreme dictator would have the opportunity to utilize the collective knowledge of humanity. If such a dictator was a wise man, then we'd be good I think.
Non-human animals don't hate, only humans can hate. In fact, many non-human animals show courage, and affection, and loyalty.
If you really love others let's see you renounce the Baha'i prejudice against gays.
Oddly, the self-deceived will claim the same thing. So we need evidence, and that will be whether you renounce the Baha'i ideology that is prejudiced against gays. Your choice.
Those who are smart are more likely to make good decisions, accomplish goals, and avoid problems.
Absolutely Frank
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Want to prove that assumption?
How does one judge the messengers? There are so many claimants, with so many conflicting claims. How does one test them? Many claimants are long dead, and cannot be questioned, so their claims are just hearsay. Perhaps their very existence is just an oft-repeated legend.
What evidence is that? If it were reliable, objective evidence wouldn't everyone believe it, just as everyone believes the Earth is round and train tracks are parallel?
Evidence that cannot be objectively tested and falsified is questionable, is it not?
What did you have in mind?
Exactly! And faith is unfounded belief; poorly evidenced belief, and therefore not reliable.
"Animal" is a biological term. An animal is defined by its biology, ie: anatomy, physiology, genetics, &c, not by its psychology, preferences, moral development or beliefs.
If it's verified by good evidence it's no longer faith. It's knowledge.
All faith is blind, or at least myopic.
As I recall the bible discourages testing and encourages, well... faith.
"... blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." -- John 20:29.
That's knowledge of construction technology, not faith.
A repeatable, observable, physical comparison of the durability of houses built on different surfaces might, indeed, be a good test, but how would one test claims about the actions and preferences of invisible spirits?
How would one study or test that? Can one interview God?
Relying on the untested claims made by countless, inconsistent messengers and prophets seems unreliable, as do untestable, individual feelings or convictions based on familiarity or ecstatic experience.
Who is all-knowing, and how can we be sure of her omniscience? How do you know consciousness and rational thought are "gifts," rather than naturally evolved features?
But we are animals. I don't think you understand what "animal" means.
I think you've invented your own significance, perhaps out of hubris.
Wait -- Is Anarchist actually Donald Trump?
God gave us the criteria in the Bible. We have been given the tools we need to use to judge true and false prophets.
How we use those tools.does require and honest and just search of the evidence they give, which they offer is a Message from God. God is just, so God provides us the ability ro make that judgement, if we choose not to, or choose not to use justice when doing so, well that is upon us.
Regards Tony
It also has spiritual metephor associated with it. Man can turn towards their animal side which is metephor for selfishness, or turn toward their Godly side which is metephor for virtues amd morals.
Regards Tony
Which is faith built on foundations of rock. My knowledge of God can be as strong as my knowledge of the material universe.
When we realise that all knowledge is relative to our given capacity and state of consciousness.
Regards Tony
I only share from the teaching given in all the Holy Wrirings of the past. This topic requires knowledge of the 5 levels of Spirit, which we can observe and see are at play in this matrix.
1) Vegetable Spirit - the power of growth
2) Animal Spirit - the power of the senses
3) Human Spirit - the power of rational mind
4) Spirit of Faith - the power of attraction
5) Holy Spirt - the power of creation, the Word.
We are born of the human spirit and this is why Jesus said we must beleive before we can be born again, that is, be born with faith into the Holy Spirit, which no death can overtake.
Regards Tony
Then why don't serious scholars see it. Please cite some of these criteria.
I see no useful tools that couldn't apply to hundreds of other claimants.
God is just?! Are we reading the same Bible?
No, biology is not spiritual. Science deals with the concrete, measurable and testable. There is nothing spiritual. There is no metaphor or basis in ancient folklore. It's a concrete, specific, technical term.
"Virtues and morals" -- that's a whole different magisterium.
Metaphor? Godly side?
You are using the term in a colloquial, poetic or philosophical sense. This is why sciences uses specific, technical terms. They eliminate semantic ambiguity.
Humans clearly fall squarely within the Biological or Taxonomic term "animal."
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