You've got it.
That makes Mussolini a real leftist.
He put the élites in their place with authoritarianism.
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There are two Left-wings
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That makes Mussolini a real leftist.
He put the élites in their place with authoritarianism.
rocala
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Hmmmm
In conclusion I would say there are a vast number of lefts or just one that comes in many flavours. But never two, that is far to simplistic.
Soandso
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There are two lefts. Dos derechas. Deux droites. Zwei Linken.
Both in the US and in Europe.
One is lounge-loving, yacht loving and is funded by George Soros, Schwab and similar individuals.
Defined by Tulsi Gabbard as an elitist cabal of warmongers.
They only care about LGBTs and sex and what links the two. They couldn't care less about the poor or the people in need.
They only care about sipping cocktails in a luxurious yacht while speaking of opera and of Caribbean Sea cruises...
They pretend to side with the people...but won't do anything about welfare programs, like universal healthcare.
The other is totally focused on easing people's lives. They try to make American people's life better. The Left of RFK Junior...and Tulsi Gabbard. Or Sanders.
They think wars are awful and destructive and think the money spent on war should be spent on universal healthcare instead. Or on other programs meant to improve all the social classes.
So which Left do you prefer?
Well, there's the bourgeois, nominally liberal, pro-corporate faction - which was probably never really "left" at all, but compared to those on the right-wing, I guess they would seem "left." They're only "progressive" inasmuch as it boosts their corporate image, but I wouldn't trust it as genuine. Most of what this faction does is just some kind of sales gimmick, which is seen as phony and disingenuous. It's the "Barbie" left - manifested in plastic, vapid consumerism - devoid of any real substance or a genuine desire to make meaningful changes in society.
In the U.S., part of the problem faced by the left is that, for the most part, the political center in America has been more on the right. So, the left has had a portion which wanted to appear more moderate, in order to avoid being associated with the communist far left. They've been the pro-war, pro-corporate faction (i.e. Truman, LBJ, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Obama, etc.), and they've largely maintained control of the Democratic Party. While they may all have varying degrees of left-wing sympathies (more so in their youth), they tend to put forth a more moderate image so as to not alienate their corporate benefactors.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
I'm just glad you don't design aircraft.There are two lefts. Dos derechas. Deux droites. Zwei Linken.
Both in the US and in Europe.
One is lounge-loving, yacht loving and is funded by George Soros, Schwab and similar individuals.
Defined by Tulsi Gabbard as an elitist cabal of warmongers.
They only care about LGBTs and sex and what links the two. They couldn't care less about the poor or the people in need.
They only care about sipping cocktails in a luxurious yacht while speaking of opera and of Caribbean Sea cruises...
They pretend to side with the people...but won't do anything about welfare programs, like universal healthcare.
The other is totally focused on easing people's lives. They try to make American people's life better. The Left of RFK Junior...and Tulsi Gabbard. Or Sanders.
They think wars are awful and destructive and think the money spent on war should be spent on universal healthcare instead. Or on other programs meant to improve all the social classes.
So which Left do you prefer?
Are there enuf of them to be defined as
a group with a unifying set of beliefs?
An example would illuminate.
Only clothes. I can sew. Pretty well.
Except for elites on the left.You've got it.
That makes Mussolini a real leftist.
He put the élites in their place with authoritarianism.
They've free reign over all.
To list every crazy is beyond my energy level.You forgot Orban.
I already have the boot.When this guy is the more sane option
Just need to let me beard grown longer.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
Not really, no.
I was doing a "what-if" mode of thinking involving anarchists.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
To elaborate further, they aren't capitalist, but I was just pointing out the irony of it.
"Anarchist" (as used by people who so identify)
seems to have no clear definition. They appear
to be a mix of anti-capitalists, violent malcontents,
& anti-government types.
Oddly, the anti-capitalists want a bigger government
to rein in business, which is the opposite of anarchism.
If they aren't capitalist, I wonder how it is
they'd earn a living, or obtain things they
want, eg, cars, homes, food, TVs, Molotov
cocktails.
Well...the Libertarian president par excellence is Javier Milei.
We have an idiom here. The bull that calls the donkey horned.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then why are the majority Christian amd theists of other flavors?
He's certainly eccentric.Well...the Libertarian president par excellence is Javier Milei.
We have an idiom here. The bull that calls the donkey horned.
We'll see how he performs on the job.
I swear it...you sound like Milei.
I speak Spanish...so I listen to Milei's speeches very often.
It's the same old tune: that Neo-Keynesians want to persecute capitalists. And boycott their businesses.
The most simplistic argument ever.
And false, of course.
Because Neo-Keynesians love capitalists and do anything to facilitate their businesses through de-taxation.
But there's a huge unfathomable difference between small entrepreneurship and bankers who gain one million per day.
Not at all.
I've a MI troll (lower peninsula) / Northern OH accent.
I wouldn't be in business without bankers.
You should try dating one.