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There is a proof that Jesus spoke (defend) to Mary when he was just born !

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
There is a proof that Jesus spoke (defend) to Mary when he was just born !


There is proof, huh? Such as? Do we have videotaped recordings? Digital audio files of the child's statements? Corroborating neutral and objective historical documents that validate the religious texts?

Or is the only so-called 'proof' of this amazing feat a self-validating passage contained within the Quaran? Because if so, I have proof that Frodo Baggins and a quaint band of Hobbits played pivotal roles in overthrowing of the Dark Lord Sauron in a place called Middle Earth when they journeyed along with a self-exiled King, an Elf, a Dwarf and a powerful wizard to destroy the Ring of Power which Sauron himself forged in order to take over the world.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
There is proof, huh? Such as? Do we have videotaped recordings? Digital audio files of the child's statements? Corroborating neutral and objective historical documents that validate the religious texts?

Or is the only so-called 'proof' of this amazing feat a self-validating passage contained within the Quaran? Because if so, I have proof that Frodo Baggins and a quaint band of Hobbits played pivotal roles in overthrowing of the Dark Lord Sauron in a place called Middle Earth when they journeyed along with a self-exiled King, an Elf, a Dwarf and a powerful wizard to destroy the Ring of Power which Sauron himself forged in order to take over the world.

Woah woah woah, excuse me? Gandalf a "powerful" maiar? Bah! Barely bested some lowly balrog, which elf-kings of old were quite capable of -- even toppling Gothmog, lord of balrogs!

Hmmph!

:p

Oh crap, is my nerd showing?
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Woah woah woah, excuse me? Gandalf a "powerful" maiar? Bah! Barely bested some lowly balrog, which elf-kings of old were quite capable of -- even toppling Gothmog, lord of balrogs!

Hmmph!

:p

Oh crap, is my nerd showing?


Yeah, but what neither the Silmarillion nor Unfinished Tales makes really clear is that Gothmog was just a big sissy. Heck, me and Peregrin Took could've kicked Gothmog's butt using nothing but farmer's hoes and slingshots. Gothmog, give me a break. HA!!

By the way, LoTR nerds are really sexy . . . Just my humble opinion.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Yeah, but what neither the Silmarillion nor Unfinished Tales makes really clear is that Gothmog was just a big sissy. Heck, me and Peregrin Took could've kicked Gothmog's butt using nothing but farmer's hoes and slingshots. Gothmog, give me a break. HA!!

By the way, LoTR nerds are really sexy . . . Just my humble opinion.

So is Stephen Colbert. I just might go straight for him.

Wutchu doin' later? :flirt:
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
So is Stephen Colbert. I just might go straight for him.

Wutchu doin' later? :flirt:


I'm going to Bree to get drunk at the Prancing Pony, then I'm headin' over to the Misty Mountains to pick a fight with a Balrog. If I can't find any, then I'm gonna have some fun woopin' up on some orcs . . .

Okay, now even I'm startin' to feel a bit nerdishly awkward. I can't help it; I read Tolkien the way some fundies read the KJV.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I'm going to Bree to get drunk at the Prancing Pony, then I'm headin' over to the Misty Mountains to pick a fight with a Balrog. If I can't find any, then I'm gonna have some fun woopin' up on some orcs . . .

Okay, now even I'm startin' to feel a bit nerdishly awkward. I can't help it; I read Tolkien the way some fundies read the KJV.

Somebody told me there's some kind of character named Tom Bomba-something in the books. This can't be right though, can it? I mean, I didn't see any character named that in the movies.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
I'm going to Bree to get drunk at the Prancing Pony, then I'm headin' over to the Misty Mountains to pick a fight with a Balrog. If I can't find any, then I'm gonna have some fun woopin' up on some orcs . . .

Okay, now even I'm startin' to feel a bit nerdishly awkward. I can't help it; I read Tolkien the way some fundies read the KJV.

Psh there are no more Balrogs to fight in the Misty Mountains, the last one at that location died in the 3rd Age... according to Tolkien this is the 5th or 6th, and Melkor hasn't returned from the Door of Night yet to begin Dagor Dagorath, so he couldn't re-embody the poor balrogy yet... :(

Kilgore Trout said:
Somebody told me there's some kind of character named Tom Bomba-something in the books. This can't be right though, can it? I mean, I didn't see any character named that in the movies.

Surely you jest :p

Tom Bombadil is a character in the books, yeah. He saves the hobbits before they even get to Bree from huorns in the Old Forest and later from barrow wights. He's awesome. And his wife is a hawt nymph.
 
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Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Somebody told me there's some kind of character named Tom Bomba-something in the books. This can't be right though, can it? I mean, I didn't see any character named that in the movies.


Tom is a bit reclusive . . . I don't think Peter Jackson could get him to come out of the Old Forest, so his part was cut from the movie.

Hey, ho, Merry Doll, Ring and ding Dillo,
Ring a dong, hop along,
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!!!

If I could actually remember the words to Tom Bombadil's Song, I think that would make it official . . . I would be the biggest LoTR nerd to have ever lived.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Tom is a bit reclusive . . . I don't think Peter Jackson could get him to come out of the Old Forest, so his part was cut from the movie.

Hey, ho, Merry Doll, Ring and ding Dillo,
Ring a dong, hop along,
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!!!

If I could actually remember the words to Tom Bombadil's Song, I think that would make it official . . . I would be the biggest LoTR nerd to have ever lived.

*rolling up sleeves and narrowing eyes, sensing a challenge*

:verymad:
 

logician

Well-Known Member
What I couldn't understand is how Gandalf and the Balrog fell into a deep hole in a cave, and ended up on a mountaintop.

Oh well.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
What I couldn't understand is how Gandalf and the Balrog fell into a deep hole in a cave, and ended up on a mountaintop.

Oh well.

They battled a lot, okay?

It does mention in the books that Gandalf had to ascend from the deepest pits of Khazad-dum (Moria), where "nameless things" gnawed at the very roots of the world. Old servants of the original dark lord Morgoth, no doubt.
 
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