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There is no God?
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JustAsking
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Could you be more subjective and stick with the subject of this forum?
Thanks!
It was a direct reply to you. You're further defining your opinion of what "perfect(ion)" is and you give an example of "coal is ugly", "diamonds are beautiful".
That's not a definition of anything, it's your subjective opinion of how carbon compares in a couple of its forms.
Me saying that is subjective is furthering the topic you are discussing, is it not?
JustWondering
Jerk
I viewed the posts. I did not see any evidence, proof or even a good arguement that supported the existence of YOUR god.
Let's imagine for a moment there was a religion gaining popularity that worshipped energy beings called Kathons that have always existed and will always exist. These Kathons spend eternity creating a universe, playing with it until they get bored, tear it down and start again. Over and over again. Big Bang after Big Bang. They can alter the laws of physics and prefer to remain unseen. Different types of sentient beings have been created throughout the ages and those capable of recieving the Kathons telepathic commandments and following them correctly will be made into creatures of energy like the Kathons to live blissfully for all eternity.
The above imaginary religion is just as plausible and has just as much proof and evidence for it as yours. Do you take the idea of Kathons really existing seriously? Why?
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InvestigateTruth
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To find the Truth, we need to be a True seeker. To be a true seeker, we need to meet the requirement to be worthy of finding the truth. Not everyone may find the truth.
God doesn't need us to know Him or find Him. We need to find Him. and I believe if we truly wish to find the truth, we find it.
"O my brother, when a true seeker determineth to take the step of search in the path leading to the knowledge of the Ancient of Days, he must, before all else, cleanse and purify his heart, which is the seat of the revelation of the inner mysteries of God, from the obscuring dust of all acquired knowledge, and the allusions of the embodiments of satanic fancy. He must purge his breast, which is the sanctuary of the abiding love of the Beloved, of every defilement, and sanctify his soul from all that pertaineth to water and clay, from all shadowy and ephemeral attachments. He must so cleanse his heart that no remnant of either love or hate may linger therein, lest that love blindly incline him to error, or that hate repel him away from the truth. Even as thou dost witness in this day how most of the people, because of such love and hate, are bereft of the immortal Face, have strayed far from the Embodiments of the divine mysteries, and, shepherdless, are roaming through the wilderness of oblivion and error. That seeker must at all times put his trust in God, must renounce the peoples of the earth, detach himself from the world of dust, and cleave unto Him Who is the Lord of Lords. He must never seek to exalt himself above any one, must wash away from the tablet of his heart every trace of pride and vainglory, must cling unto patience and resignation, observe silence, and refrain from idle talk. For the tongue is a smouldering fire, and excess of speech a deadly poison. Material fire consumeth the body, whereas the fire of the tongue devoureth both heart and soul. The force of the former lasteth but for a time, whilst the effects of the latter endure a century. " Baha'u'llah- Book of Certitude
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
The truth is like the Sun, shining and bright!
But when our eyes are closed, can we see the sun?
and if we are given a hundred thousands reasons, until our inner eye is not open, has no effect!
How strange that while the Beloved is visible as the sun, yet the heedless still hunt after tinsel and base metal
Even as the sun, bright hath He shined, But alas, He hath come to the town of the blind!
Open the eye of truth, that thou mayest behold the veilless Beauty and exclaim: Hallowed be the Lord, the most excellent of all creators! Bahaullah
But when our eyes are closed, can we see the sun?
and if we are given a hundred thousands reasons, until our inner eye is not open, has no effect!
How strange that while the Beloved is visible as the sun, yet the heedless still hunt after tinsel and base metal
Even as the sun, bright hath He shined, But alas, He hath come to the town of the blind!
Open the eye of truth, that thou mayest behold the veilless Beauty and exclaim: Hallowed be the Lord, the most excellent of all creators! Bahaullah
Maimonides
The mad Neuroscientist
First off before you say there is no God to what do you mean by God?