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There Is No Hell

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
I'd prefer it greatly if Christians stopped using the word Hell. It's not your word. Hell is derived from Hel, a realm in the Germanic faith, which has been sullied with association to what is more properly termed Gehenna. Hel is much more akin to the Judaic Sheol or Greek Hades.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I'd prefer it greatly if Christians stopped using the word Hell. It's not your word. Hell is derived from Hel, a realm in the Germanic faith, which has been sullied with association to what is more properly termed Gehenna. Hel is much more akin to the Judaic Sheol or Greek Hades.

I believe it can't be helped Hell is part of the English language which has the same Celtic language background as German. We simply don't have a better word for it even if it is innacurate according to legend. Gehenna is innacurate also and is just used as a simile.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Too late... I actually had that argument with a priest once. The conversation finished like this:
Priest: "You are an heretic. You are going to burn in hell!"
Me: "Ok, I guess I'll meet you there."

You can imagine how well the church and I get along.

I don't believe heretics necessarily go to hell. I am one and a faithful Christian and have expectations of continuing to be with Jesus for millenia to come.

I don't believe that is a rational goal.

I beleive this is relative. My church doesn't have priests and my pastor has never tried to force his beliefs on me and appears to accept me as one of the brethren.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
I believe it can't be helped Hell is part of the English language which has the same Celtic language background as German. We simply don't have a better word for it even if it is innacurate according to legend. Gehenna is innacurate also and is just used as a simile.
I'm aware, I'm just being pedantic and bitter.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I believe we end up alongside people just like ourselves.
How else to be happy?
How else to be fair?
 

SkylarHunter

Active Member
I'd prefer it greatly if Christians stopped using the word Hell. It's not your word. Hell is derived from Hel, a realm in the Germanic faith, which has been sullied with association to what is more properly termed Gehenna. Hel is much more akin to the Judaic Sheol or Greek Hades.


Do you know how many times I tried to tell that to people who are so determined to believe in the eternal torture there's no reasoning with them? It's frustrating.
I mean, the root of the word is exactly what you said, it seems simple, it should be simple to explain, but once they decided there's a place somewhere where the evil god is going to burn people forever they don't even care where the word comes from or what it means. Go figure!
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Do you know how many times I tried to tell that to people who are so determined to believe in the eternal torture there's no reasoning with them? It's frustrating.
I mean, the root of the word is exactly what you said, it seems simple, it should be simple to explain, but once they decided there's a place somewhere where the evil god is going to burn people forever they don't even care where the word comes from or what it means. Go figure!
Well, it's an appropriation, done by the Anglo-Saxons. They picked the word most Germanic-speaking types would be familiar with in regards to a non-reward(albeit also non-punishment also) after-life, and played up the bad parts of Helheim. It was associated over centuries then with Gehenna, and it has gotten to the point where they mean the same thing in common vernacular.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Do you know how many times I tried to tell that to people who are so determined to believe in the eternal torture there's no reasoning with them? It's frustrating.
I mean, the root of the word is exactly what you said, it seems simple, it should be simple to explain, but once they decided there's a place somewhere where the evil god is going to burn people forever they don't even care where the word comes from or what it means. Go figure!
People do have a right to use any word that they please. The word "hell" is from so many different sources and has so many different meanings from those different sources. But we really can't go around and dictate what words people can use and what they can't.
What I've learned that if you try and stop them, people will just use the word that more often. People are contrary like that. ;)
 
The Roman Catholic Church's teaches an immortal afterlife for eternal rewards in Heaven and everlasting punishment sufferings in a sea for unrelenting hellfire in Hell. Because they are the ones that formally added the the idea in their doctrine. they are of course very much aware that they are spewing a big lie and that not all ignorant and uneducated masses will believe in an immortal afterlife in Heaven and Hell. so they made such they cover all possibilities by punishing heretics, blaspheme againt the holy spirit, apostates, witches, transgressors, sinners, enemies of the church, rebels and whatever. The church will deal with them not only in the afterlife but also in the present life by civil arrest, subject to trial, tortured (they obtain a extremely high rate of confessions from the suspects), burn them at the stake, forfeit their properties if they have any, force a trial by fire for those that will not confess, branded as a witch if the suspect survive the trial by fire and will be summarily be burnt at the stake.
 

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
Psalm 139:8 alludes to the possibility of a person going to the possibility of a person going to either heaven or sheol, but they are not alone there. I've heard Christians say things like "Hell is separation from God." Well, apparently not. I think that hell in the biblical sense is to experience God's presence without the forgiveness of sin. People end up there by choice.
 

Amadon

New Member
Psalm 139:8 alludes to the possibility of a person going to the possibility of a person going to either heaven or sheol, but they are not alone there. I've heard Christians say things like "Hell is separation from God." Well, apparently not. I think that hell in the biblical sense is to experience God's presence without the forgiveness of sin. People end up there by choice.





Ancient man worshiped everything that he feared. he feared everything he did not understand and he understood very little. Fire was the biggest fear he had, thus hell was invented. How many of you would take your own child and throw them into an eternal fire.
God is love, he loves you as though you were his only child and he will never judge you until you have been given all the information of the universe and have decided if you want to continue on the ascension career or drop out. Should you drop out, it will be as though you have never been.
Several years ago, I came upon an accident and the truck involved was on fire. I ran to the vehicle but the fire was too far gone. I stood and watched as a 19 year old boy was consumed by fire. He did not wail and Nash his teeth, with in a short time he simply was no more.
Each day people are cremated. it does not last for ever. It is over in a short time. When Jesus died he returned three days later and he did not return as flesh and blood. He reappeared 19 times and each time the first word he said was peace. The reason for that was because he scared those who seen him. He appeared to the apostles once when they were behind closed doors. There are three major forms of life in the universe, Spirit, Morontia, and material or flesh and blood. After we die, we will awake on the mansion worlds with a new body ( Morontia) The Morontia body is an in between body between material and spirit. Guess what boys and girls. This body does not feel pain. Now, some one please explain Hell to me.
 

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
After we die, we will awake on the mansion worlds with a new body ( Morontia) The Morontia body is an in between body between material and spirit. Guess what boys and girls. This body does not feel pain.
How do you know the Morontia body doesn't feel pain? Have you ever died before? I've actually never heard of this before. What is the mansion worlds?
 
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