These dogs, we had to shoot them all

[TashaN]

I know that many people will judge me for what i'm going to say here, but i just need to know how ethical it was to do such a thing.

My friends and i moved into an area where there were a lot of dogs around us. Some of them were very cute but we couldn't live in one place. They were so noisy and no body was feeding them, because we cut all their resources once we moved in. We needed that area because we were homeless, so we had to take it, and they had to get angry and hungry as well.

We first tolerated their presence, then our patience started to fade away. We grounded them in one small area and we decided to punish them because they started barking at us every time we pass by.

This was the plan, we decided to put them in one small area for sometime without food, without care, and without the freedom to move on and find their own food, simply, it was a prison for these dogs. I know this is so cruel but we had to do it anyway.

After a while, one of them couldn't handle this situation and found a way to get away from that big cage we made, and tried to bite one of us, but we managed to kill him before he do so. Then, we knew that the others were going to come so we had to shoot them all and let them rest in peace, because they always were trying either to escape this cage or hurt us in a way or another. Blood was splashing every where during this incident, but it was necessary for us to do it.

To us, they were just dogs, and my friends said that no body will care about them, they are not even human beings or anything, my friends said. I was upset, but i couldn't do anything about it.

Do you think me and my friends were within our rights to save ourselves from these wild dogs?

Is it ethical?

How do you feel about it?

 

[Magic Man]

I would need a lot more information than this. As it is, it seems like you needed the space, so you confined these dogs to a small prison and then were surprised and angry when they got free and attacked you. Wouldn't you be upset, too, if someone imprisoned you?

Why couldn't you and the dogs share the space? What did they do to test your patience specifically? You say they were noisy, but was there more to it than noise?

There are instances where I would not condemn an action like killing dogs, and yours may very well be one of them. However, from the information you've provided, it doesn't sound like it was necessary or that you tried many other options before resorting to this.

 

[TashaN]

I would need a lot more information than this. As it is, it seems like you needed the space, so you confined these dogs to a small prison and then were surprised and angry when they got free and attacked you. Wouldn't you be upset, too, if someone imprisoned you?

But they were just dogs. Why should they be upset if we imprisoned them?

Why couldn't you and the dogs share the space? What did they do to test your patience specifically? You say they were noisy, but was there more to it than noise?

They were trying to bite some of us. In fact, in one occasion they have succeeded to do so.

There are instances where I would not condemn an action like killing dogs, and yours may very well be one of them. However, from the information you've provided, it doesn't sound like it was necessary or that you tried many other options before resorting to this.

What other options?

We allowed them to remain there after we moved in but they weren't happy about it because there was a shortage in food and care for them. They tried to attack but we managed to put them in a big cage for our safety. They were acting as a group in a weird way.

 

[Panda]

But they were just dogs. Why should they be upset if we imprisoned them?

If you have ever owned a dog you will know they have feelings, they can be happy, sad they get scared. A dog doesn't like being trapped, nothing likes being trapped.

They were trying to bite some of us. In fact, in one occasion they have succeeded to do so.

Was this before or after you imprisoned them?

What other options?

Calling the dog pound? Or maybe trying to care for them?

We allowed them to remain there after we moved in but they weren't happy about it because there was a shortage in food and care for them. They tried to attack but we managed to put them in a big cage for our safety. They were acting as a group in a weird way.

How so?

 

[Smoke]

Is it ethical?

You penned them up to starve them to death, and shot them when they escaped, and you don't know whether that was ethical?

 

[TashaN]

If you have ever owned a dog you will know they have feelings, they can be happy, sad they get scared. A dog doesn't like being trapped, nothing likes being trapped.

What if we had to do it?

Was this before or after you imprisoned them?

They were just barking at us and attempt to attack. They almost bite one of us, but they started the real attack after we imprisoned them and one of them escaped as i explained before.

Calling the dog pound? Or maybe trying to care for them?

We thought it was unnecessary because my friends said that everything was under control.

How so?

What do you mean?

You penned them up to starve them to death, and shot them when they escaped, and you don't know whether that was ethical?

We just wanted to control their hostility. We didn't like it but we had to.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Did you stop to think how a caged and starved animal behaves before you caged them?

They were trying to bite some of us. In fact, in one occasion they have succeeded to do so.

You caged and starved them, of course they tried to bite. Any animal, even humans, will behave in such a manner when put in such conditions.

But they were just dogs. Why should they be upset if we imprisoned them?

Dogs have feelings too. They cry tears of pain and joy, wag there tails when happy and excited, whimper when in pain, and lash out when abused.

Is it ethical?

No. You could have called the human society, looked for a home for them, took care of them, or a number of other options. Had I been in that situation, I would have made all attempts to befriend them. And if that wouldn't have worked, I would have called the humane society.

 

[Smoke]

We just wanted to control their hostility. We didn't like it but we had to.

According to your account, the only thing the dogs did to you before you started mistreating them was to bark at you. You didn't "have to" do anything.

 

[Caladan]

God.. are you lot so clueless as to what Tashan is talking about?

 

[Smoke]

God.. are you lot so clueless as to what Tashan is talking about?

Yes, I was. But not now.

But the dogs he's talking about weren't just barking.

 

[3.14]

you should have just shot them right away then you would have been ethical
what you essentialy did was make sure the dogs were starving and aggresive before you shot them (trying to justify an action by making it selfdefence)
you made a action that needed no defence and turned it into an unethical action because you though it would be more ethical

 

[TashaN]

Well, if these are your opinions. I respect them a lot. Let's reveal the identity of these dogs and the identity of those who killed them after imprisoning them.

This is how the prison looks like ...

This is how they suffered in the prison...

And this is how they been shot ...

 

[TashaN]

you should have just shot them right away then you would have been ethical
what you essentialy did was make sure the dogs were starving and aggresive before you shot them (trying to justify an action by making it selfdefence)
you made a action that needed no defence and turned it into an unethical action because you though it would be more ethical

I guess that's exactly what happened.

 

[3.14]

bait and switch methode pretty cheap trick if you ask me

now what do you think this proves?

 

[TashaN]

bait and switch methode pretty cheap trick if you ask me

now what do you think this proves?

Sorry for the trick, i really apologize to everyone for doing so. That's not my style, but i had to do it this time. I wanted you all to answer without any kind of influence.

And to you 3.14, i don't need to tell you what does this prove. You just have to read my links and look at your own posts, that's all.

 

[Magic Man]

Ah, all of a sudden I care a lot less about this topic.

 

[England my lionheart]

I know that many people will judge me for what i'm going to say here, but i just need to know how ethical it was to do such a thing.

My friends and i moved into an area where there were a lot of dogs around us. Some of them were very cute but we couldn't live in one place. They were so noisy and no body was feeding them, because we cut all their resources once we moved in. We needed that area because we were homeless, so we had to take it, and they had to get angry and hungry as well.

We first tolerated their presence, then our patience started to fade away. We grounded them in one small area and we decided to punish them because they started barking at us every time we pass by.

This was the plan, we decided to put them in one small area for sometime without food, without care, and without the freedom to move on and find their own food, simply, it was a prison for these dogs. I know this is so cruel but we had to do it anyway.

After a while, one of them couldn't handle this situation and found a way to get away from that big cage we made, and tried to bite one of us, but we managed to kill him before he do so. Then, we knew that the others were going to come so we had to shoot them all and let them rest in peace, because they always were trying either to escape this cage or hurt us in a way or another. Blood was splashing every where during this incident, but it was necessary for us to do it.

To us, they were just dogs, and my friends said that no body will care about them, they are not even human beings or anything, my friends said. I was upset, but i couldn't do anything about it.

Do you think me and my friends were within our rights to save ourselves from these wild dogs?

Is it ethical?

How do you feel about it?

Very obvious its not about Dogs

 

[gnomon]

And here I thought it was about the Kurds.

 

[ChristineES]

Is it ethical? In the USA, the humane society would gathered them up, train them a bit, put them up for adoption, and if they aren't adopted they are "put to sleep"- humanely. Starving animals can get pretty aggressive- starving people can get pretty aggressive, too. Them biting should not have been surprising.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If it is an analogy to how the Pakistan people were stuffed into the Gaza Strip, I do not think that, or the history behind it, is ethical either.