They Are Coming For Your Guns!

[esmith]

Whose taking weapons? That’s called a reasonable restriction. Their mommy can still buy them their favorite assault weapon for Christmas unless they make that illegal too.

Maybe you should read HB1645.
It does say "shall not posses".
In other words if you are under 21 you can not have in your possession any of those restricted firearms and if mommy buys one for them they have now broken the law.
You know it might behoove one to read something before engaging the keyboard on your device. You know something like the saying "engage brain before engaging mouth".

 

[Sunstone]

Sweet Jeeber's Balls! They've come to steal our guns! Steal our guns! By the gods, esmith, this and homosexual marriage will lead to the collapse of Western Civilization, I tell you! I mean that! This ranks right up there with homosexuals marrying as a direct threat to our civilization!

 

[Shaul]

Wisdom is required. the population do not need guns.

Whether the population needs guns is not yours to call.

 

[Shaul]

Well good for them, they dotted their i’s, I’ve been a fan if Illinois policies for some time now, this is no different.

You mean the Illinois where Chicago is, cause it is one of the cities with the highest murder rate.

Tracking Chicago homicide victims

Illinois gun policies seem to not be working.

 

[sandandfoam]

Yikes. The more nuts the US gets the happier I am that NRA types don't like to travel.
Why stop at guns - I think it's your right to have a missile, heck a nuclear missile. The governement have them and it's only logical that if you don't have one too there's nothing that will hold the mind control programme back.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Whether the population needs guns is not yours to call.

I never said it was, I just choose not to own one.

Those that do, live with their choices.

Regards Tony

 

[Shaul]

They're not banning guns, they've just raised the minimum age to buy certain types of guns. It's no different than when Hawaii raised the minimum age for smoking to 21 or when all the states increased the drinking age to 21. You can still do it, you just have to wait a couple more years.
This is not even close to taking people's guns.

They are trying to the guns incrementally since they know they can’t do it directly. Keeping guns from minors should is just a back door means to ultimately eliminate all guns. Minors under adult supervision can use guns safely.

 

[Shaul]

Yikes. The more nuts the US gets the happier I am that NRA types don't like to travel.
Why stop at guns - I think it's your right to have a missile, heck a nuclear missile. The governement have them and it's only logical that if you don't have one too there's nothing that will hold the mind control programme back.

A truly specious argument.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They are trying to the guns incrementally since they know they can’t do it directly. Keeping guns from minors should is just a back door means to ultimately eliminate all guns.

Has places like California who raised the smoking age to 21 get right of all cigarettes? Did we get rid of alcohol by raising the drinking age to 21?

Minors under adult supervision can use guns safely.

Minors under adult supervision can do many things safely that we say they can't do until a certain age, such as driving a car. Many states already have restrictions that put gun ownership of certain types of guns at 21, including Indiana where you have to be 21 to get a handgun.

 

[sandandfoam]

A truly specious argument.

In fairness, mine isn't an argument. It's an expression of relief that I don't share space with eejits that own machine guns. It's also expressing my fervent wish that said eejits stay where they are.

 

[esmith]

In fairness, mine isn't an argument. It's an expression of relief that I don't share space with eejits that own machine guns. It's also expressing my fervent wish that said eejits stay where they are.

For your edification from Your Lesson For The Day
A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm designed to fire bullets in rapid succession from an ammunition belt or magazine, typically at a rate of 300 rounds per minute or higher. Not all fully automatic firearms are machine guns. Submachine guns, rifles, assault rifles, shotguns, pistols or cannons may be capable of fully automatic fire, but are not designed for sustained fire. As a class of military rapid-fire guns, machine guns are fully automatic weapons designed to be used as support weapons and generally used when attached to a mount- or fired from the ground on a bipod or tripod. Many (but not all) machine guns also use belt feeding and open boltoperation, features not normally found on rifles.

By U.S. federal law, a "machine gun" is a legal term for any weapon able to fire more than one shot per trigger pull regardless of caliber, the receiver of any such weapon, any weapon convertible to such a state using normal tools, or any component or part that will modify an existing firearm such that it functions as a "machine gun" such as a drop-in auto sear.[1] Civilian possession of such weapons is not prohibited by any Federal law and not illegal in many states, but they must be registered as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act and have a tax stamp paid. The Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 banned new production of firearms classified as machine guns for most civilian applications, however, so only "grandfathered" weapons produced before this date are legally transferable

In other words the odds of you being anywhere near a person who owns a automatic weapon is about 1 in 100,000 (and even probably higher). The average automatic weapon starts at about $20,000.

 

[Sunstone]

For your edification from Your Lesson For The Day
A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm designed to fire bullets in rapid succession from an ammunition belt or magazine, typically at a rate of 300 rounds per minute or higher. Not all fully automatic firearms are machine guns. Submachine guns, rifles, assault rifles, shotguns, pistols or cannons may be capable of fully automatic fire, but are not designed for sustained fire. As a class of military rapid-fire guns, machine guns are fully automatic weapons designed to be used as support weapons and generally used when attached to a mount- or fired from the ground on a bipod or tripod. Many (but not all) machine guns also use belt feeding and open boltoperation, features not normally found on rifles.

By U.S. federal law, a "machine gun" is a legal term for any weapon able to fire more than one shot per trigger pull regardless of caliber, the receiver of any such weapon, any weapon convertible to such a state using normal tools, or any component or part that will modify an existing firearm such that it functions as a "machine gun" such as a drop-in auto sear.[1] Civilian possession of such weapons is not prohibited by any Federal law and not illegal in many states, but they must be registered as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act and have a tax stamp paid. The Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 banned new production of firearms classified as machine guns for most civilian applications, however, so only "grandfathered" weapons produced before this date are legally transferable

In other words the odds of you being anywhere near a person who owns a automatic weapon is about 1 in 100,000 (and even probably higher). The average automatic weapon starts at about $20,000.

You're a genius, esmith! Truly a genius at missing the point.

 

[esmith]

You're a genius, esmith! Truly a genius at missing the point.

When someone is totally inaccurate in their terminology, especially when it comes to firearms, I have an issue with that..
I read, and hear the constant barrage of those in the anit-gun group who in the most part are talking about, IMO, something they no little or nothing about yet try a convince people they are right.
If you have a problem with me having a "teaching" moment fine, but I will continue to correct those that are using the wrong terminology.
Have a nice day.

 

[Sunstone]

When someone is totally inaccurate in their terminology, especially when it comes to firearms, I have an issue with that..

Even when it doesn't matter in the specific context that the terminology was inaccurate? There's a word for needlessly nit-picking at terms, esmith. That word is "boring". BORING!

Have a nice day.

You too. Seriously.

 

[esmith]

Even when it doesn't matter in the specific context that the terminology was inaccurate? There's a word for needlessly nit-picking at terms, esmith. That word is "boring". BORING!

Sometimes I feel like I'm

 

[Sunstone]

Sometimes I feel like I'm

At last, esmith! You and I at last have something in common! We both feel like we're beating a dead horse!

 

[suncowiam]

Sometimes I feel like I'm

You're beating the nuts of a horse?

 

[esmith]

You're beating the nuts of a horse?

No it was a gelding.
Whoops, did I use a word unknown to you?

 

[idav]

Maybe you should read HB1645.
It does say "shall not posses".
In other words if you are under 21 you can not have in your possession any of those restricted firearms and if mommy buys one for them they have now broken the law.
You know it might behoove one to read something before engaging the keyboard on your device. You know something like the saying "engage brain before engaging mouth".

You know technically you have to first own the gun for them to take it.

 

[idav]

Sweet Jeeber's Balls! They've come to steal our guns! Steal our guns! By the gods, esmith, this and homosexual marriage will lead to the collapse of Western Civilization, I tell you! I mean that! This ranks right up there with homosexuals marrying as a direct threat to our civilization!

You said it Sunstone next thing you know they be calling us the New France and we will be eating French fries with FORKS!!!