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This is my philosophy - agree with it or no?

Slaedi7324

Member
I believe that we should "reboot the world."

Every single human should unite to a One World Government, even force every human to one big landmass, one country.

And let them live in that one and only country, a new life.

A place where misconceptions, misinformations, false statements, lies, bigotry and racism aren't available.

Only facts, historical facts, scientific facts and anything that is factual or substantiated proof supporting a legend, such as Moses, Jesus, Buddha.

One impartial education system for everyone, not some, but everyone. Not just a few knows and the rest are stupid idiots, but we all know.

Religions that teach inaccurate things such as Earth is flat or 6,000 years old should be eradicated. Religions are only allowed as philosophies or religions that are not incompatible to the scientific world.

Just imagine, no Young Creationists, no evolution-deniers, no Holocaust-deniers, no white supremacists, no ignoramuses.

This is because there would be no parents that will teach the children. but teachers teaching children. And we aren't speaking about public-school level of a teacher, I believe that if we go by this New World Order, we can eventually be extremely intelligent at only the age of 8! What is usually known as a 9th grade, usually achieved at 16 years of age, could be achieved at a much younger age, probably at 8!

In order to make this happen, the child would be forced out of the family after 5 years old. He will live in one big state-owned institution with a new "family" (basically a boarding school with no possibility to ever meet your family again, and basically learn to live with your new family that will be with you until you're 25 and fully graduated).

University-level of teachers will teach children about various topics, without simplify it, at a relatively young age.

This will be because the children are not products of the culture and environment they are from, as well as parents. But instead, the products of schools, government teachings.

They won't hate, say, homosexuals because a book tell them to hate them, they will not resort to the same fallaciously, laughable, petty arguments that has been debunked countless of times.

If they hate it, they would be writing scientific documents on why they believe it is wrong, as neutral and scientific as possible. If it is accepted as fact, he's correct. If not, he should change his opinion to the correct one, if he refuses and secretly keep teaching this, he will get to jail, we don't need more believers of misinformation.

There will be no pathetic protests that are against something good.

Internet would most likely decay too, because taking a look at the YouTube comments makes me doubt my philosophy. People wouldn't learn, orally [I've heard that...]. But through credible sources [According to.., therefore...].

If a person wants to learn something, he shouldn't quote RationalWiki, Wikipedia or a YouTube video. But from something credible, such as a book by a renowned author, perhaps a scientist or a historian that accurately documents these, say, scientific or historic facts (the government will determine true educational books and partial propaganda).

Russia wouldn't teach one perspective and no other, America one, but no other and China from a third perspective, while ignoring the rest of the perspectives.

What is historical, thus subjective, will capture all of the perspectives, but strongly suggests to rely on what the book calls for the most plausible and substantiated perspective.

What is scientific, thus objectively impartial, shall capture only the true perspective and ignore the others that are false that some countries might be teaching.

It's basically eugenics of many kinds; no stupid people, no intellectually disabled people, no propaganda and no evil people (Theft? Execution. Rape? Execution, as well as the victim. Murder? Torture for 10 years until the last day where you will be executed, there will be no "lesser" punishment, if you violate the rules, you will face capital punishment. Even though, this seems too harsh, that's the effective way of a peaceful place where people are too scarred of doing crimes, because if they aren't caught, great for them, but they eventually will and then they will be executed.)

Things that can be achieved by observational breeding. If someone seems to be a danger for the civilized world, it will be executed. There will also be a children restriction, only 2 children. If more, all the children will be executed and the parents would be sterilized.

That is my philosophy. Every human living by one and same Government, with one perspective of the facts, not all the rest of the lies. Some would call it for a dictatorship, but I suppose, this would be a true utopia. A pacifist world.

Do you agree with my worldview? I know that the leaders of the country could eventually become corrupt, but if we imagine a theoretical leader that will never become corrupt nor his successors. What do you think then?
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
I agree with stopping population growth. Sterilization after the 3rd child with a big fine for having the third child.
Voluntary sterilization after 2 children with a reward for doing it voluntarily.

That on its own will put an end to 80% of our problems within one generation.
(See China for e.g.)
 

Slaedi7324

Member
I agree with stopping population growth. Sterilization after the 3rd child with a big fine for having the third child.
Voluntary sterilization after 2 children with a reward for doing it voluntarily.

That on its own will put an end to 80% of our problems within one generation.
(See China for e.g.)
That's a better idea. Such as "points." If someone do good, he will be rewarded by points. Points would be the new kind of money. Rather than a job, working and get few money for it. If you work hard, you will be rewarded greater with points.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I believe that we should "reboot the world."

I believe the world is just fine, and in no need of "rebooting."

Every single human should unite to a One World Government, even force every human to one big landmass, one country.

Why? How would a singular world government be beneficial? How would it be structured? Given different peoples have so many different values and ways of life, how would something like this be possible and yet continue to respect cultural diversity? If a particular people values the idea of a theocracy, would they be allowed to have one within the one government? Or would you demand that everybody follow the exact same idea of everything?

A place where misconceptions, misinformations, false statements, lies, bigotry and racism aren't available.

A singular world government would not create this kind of place (nor would anything else for that matter). Not unless you're talking about drilling computers into people's brains and turning humanity in to a Borg collective or some such undesirable scenario. It's sounding more and more like what you're proposing is authoritarianism. I'm not a fan of authoritarianism, as a pluralist.

Only facts, historical facts, scientific facts and anything that is factual or substantiated proof supporting a legend, such as Moses, Jesus, Buddha.

One impartial education system for everyone, not some, but everyone. Not just a few knows and the rest are stupid idiots, but we all know.

Religions that teach inaccurate things such as Earth is flat or 6,000 years old should be eradicated. Religions are only allowed as philosophies or religions that are not incompatible to the scientific world.

Okay, yup. You're definitely proposing authoritarianism, along with blatant cultural genocide. The rest of what you wrote only deteriorates from here, no offense. Not a fan. Not a fan at all. And some of this resembles fascism.
 

thau

Well-Known Member
I believe that we should "reboot the world."

Every single human should unite to a One World Government, even force every human to one big landmass, one country.

And let them live in that one and only country, a new life.

A place where misconceptions, misinformations, false statements, lies, bigotry and racism aren't available.

Only facts, historical facts, scientific facts and anything that is factual or substantiated proof supporting a legend, such as Moses, Jesus, Buddha.

One impartial education system for everyone, not some, but everyone. Not just a few knows and the rest are stupid idiots, but we all know.

Religions that teach inaccurate things such as Earth is flat or 6,000 years old should be eradicated. Religions are only allowed as philosophies or religions that are not incompatible to the scientific world.

Just imagine, no Young Creationists, no evolution-deniers, no Holocaust-deniers, no white supremacists, no ignoramuses.

This is because there would be no parents that will teach the children. but teachers teaching children. And we aren't speaking about public-school level of a teacher, I believe that if we go by this New World Order, we can eventually be extremely intelligent at only the age of 8! What is usually known as a 9th grade, usually achieved at 16 years of age, could be achieved at a much younger age, probably at 8!

In order to make this happen, the child would be forced out of the family after 5 years old. He will live in one big state-owned institution with a new "family" (basically a boarding school with no possibility to ever meet your family again, and basically learn to live with your new family that will be with you until you're 25 and fully graduated).

University-level of teachers will teach children about various topics, without simplify it, at a relatively young age.

This will be because the children are not products of the culture and environment they are from, as well as parents. But instead, the products of schools, government teachings.

They won't hate, say, homosexuals because a book tell them to hate them, they will not resort to the same fallaciously, laughable, petty arguments that has been debunked countless of times.

If they hate it, they would be writing scientific documents on why they believe it is wrong, as neutral and scientific as possible. If it is accepted as fact, he's correct. If not, he should change his opinion to the correct one, if he refuses and secretly keep teaching this, he will get to jail, we don't need more believers of misinformation.

There will be no pathetic protests that are against something good.

Internet would most likely decay too, because taking a look at the YouTube comments makes me doubt my philosophy. People wouldn't learn, orally [I've heard that...]. But through credible sources [According to.., therefore...].

If a person wants to learn something, he shouldn't quote RationalWiki, Wikipedia or a YouTube video. But from something credible, such as a book by a renowned author, perhaps a scientist or a historian that accurately documents these, say, scientific or historic facts (the government will determine true educational books and partial propaganda).

Russia wouldn't teach one perspective and no other, America one, but no other and China from a third perspective, while ignoring the rest of the perspectives.

What is historical, thus subjective, will capture all of the perspectives, but strongly suggests to rely on what the book calls for the most plausible and substantiated perspective.

What is scientific, thus objectively impartial, shall capture only the true perspective and ignore the others that are false that some countries might be teaching.

It's basically eugenics of many kinds; no stupid people, no intellectually disabled people, no propaganda and no evil people (Theft? Execution. Rape? Execution, as well as the victim. Murder? Torture for 10 years until the last day where you will be executed, there will be no "lesser" punishment, if you violate the rules, you will face capital punishment. Even though, this seems too harsh, that's the effective way of a peaceful place where people are too scarred of doing crimes, because if they aren't caught, great for them, but they eventually will and then they will be executed.)

Things that can be achieved by observational breeding. If someone seems to be a danger for the civilized world, it will be executed. There will also be a children restriction, only 2 children. If more, all the children will be executed and the parents would be sterilized.

That is my philosophy. Every human living by one and same Government, with one perspective of the facts, not all the rest of the lies. Some would call it for a dictatorship, but I suppose, this would be a true utopia. A pacifist world.

Do you agree with my worldview? I know that the leaders of the country could eventually become corrupt, but if we imagine a theoretical leader that will never become corrupt nor his successors. What do you think then?

I would agree only if our God agrees with you, too.

Quite sure He does not.

Your goals are simply temporal and horribly secular. Can you not see the evidence for the Judeo-Christian God? If we disagree there, then we can never agree on goals.

Just because there is sin and hate in this world does not mean there is not eternal value and meaning and answers.
 

Slaedi7324

Member
I believe the world is just fine, and in no need of "rebooting."
You think this world is fine? This world with wars, hate, bloodshed, nuclear weapons, poverty, disease, murder, racism, bigotry, dictators, oppressors, persecutors is fine? Looking at this world and you see only sad faces, we are in desperate need of a reboot with no Russia, no China, no US, no Iran, no Saudi Arabia. Pakistan and India. And all these other things that could destroy our world. We humans could basically die any time due to nuclear weapons, if they are possessed by the wrong kind.

You may look at yourself and your life and consider it for "fine," but you aren't looking beyond that. Which is egotistical.

We have to reboot, live in a new world with no hate.
Why? How would a singular world government be beneficial? How would it be structured? Given different peoples have so many different values and ways of life, how would something like this be possible and yet continue to respect cultural diversity? If a particular people values the idea of a theocracy, would they be allowed to have one within the one government? Or would you demand that everybody follow the exact same idea of everything?
You think society's values are more important than the people living in them? "Cultural diversity" isn't needed for advance in knowledge, it only lag our advancement.

Sure, you want to live a Hindu lifestyle you can do it if it is compatible to our ideology and doesn't outcast you. If everyone follows same idea, no disagreements, thus, no problems.
A singular world government would not create this kind of place

Sure it will. Why can't it not?

Authoritarianism or not. This is the perfect way for a utopia.
 

Slaedi7324

Member
I would agree only if our God agrees with you, too.

Quite sure He does not.

Your goals are simply temporal and horribly secular. Can you not see the evidence for the Judeo-Christian God? If we disagree there, then we can never agree on goals.

Just because there is sin and hate in this world does not mean there is not eternal value and meaning and answers.
We also need less people like you.

Jesus isn't coming, we are the second coming of the Messiah. We are the Messiahs. We are the only one to stop the hate, not Kalki or Jesus. Us. God doesn't want to see us suffer, but the opposite.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
You may look at yourself and your life and consider it for "fine," but you aren't looking beyond that. Which is egotistical.

I'm sure you'd like to believe that's what I'm thinking, but it isn't. I'm well aware of the existence of things in this world that humans find disagreeable.

I am also well aware that removal of these things is quite impossible in this world, as well as the fact that the very things you complain about are frequently caused and magnified by the sort of one-true-way authoritarian attitudes you espouse.


You think society's values are more important than the people living in them? "Cultural diversity" isn't needed for advance in knowledge, it only lag our advancement.

I didn't say values are more important than people. However, if you think that advancement can happen without diversity, good luck with that, considering diversity is absolutely required for what you probably consider to be advancement. It works pretty much the same way that biological evolution does. If you have a species with a relatively homogenous gene pool, or one that lacks diversity, it can't adapt or change rapidly.

Sure it will. Why can't it not?

Singular governance does not erase human diversity, that's why. There are other things that would need to be added to the equation. Governance alone doesn't resolve things. Human societies are more complex than that. One would have to wage wars and kill off any people or cultures that disagree with you. One would have to do things like burn books, take down the internet, and engage in aggressive propaganda and thought control. Even if one did all these things, attempts to homogenize human culture inevitably fail over the long term.

Authoritarianism or not. This is the perfect way for a utopia.

You mean your utopia. There's no such thing as an agreed upon vision of utopia for the entire human species.
 

Slaedi7324

Member
@Quintessence

To each their own. I strongly disagree with your views and oppose them as I see no benefits in them, but I believe that this philosophy is the only way to achieve peace, from a person who understands the perspective.
 

thau

Well-Known Member
We also need less people like you.

Jesus isn't coming, we are the second coming of the Messiah. We are the Messiahs. We are the only one to stop the hate, not Kalki or Jesus. Us. God doesn't want to see us suffer, but the opposite.

You already essentially said that. I get your point.

It is my belief (read: certainty) you are espousing an ideology of great folly.

You demand everything be revealed and of perfect understanding before accepting anything. God asks for faith in that which we do not know, and obedience on that which has been revealed. And the rewards far surpass your idea of utopia with this passing earthly life.
 

Slaedi7324

Member
It is my belief (read: certainty) you are espousing an ideology of great folly.
You're the one saying we should live in great misery and suffering because your God told you such. That's lack of good sense.
You demand everything be revealed and of perfect understanding before accepting anything. God asks for faith in that which we do not know, and obedience on that which has been revealed. And the rewards far surpass your idea of utopia with this passing earthly life.
Such an idea will never happen.
 

Slaedi7324

Member
Yours? Seriously?
Indeed, you had none to offer in the first place. I suppose you rather want to live in a world of great misery and wait until your messiah come and change it.

No wonder you like oppression, your religion is full of it. And that's the problem with Jews, National Socialists could change this "cultural diversity," but they failed. Not saying I wish Jews dead, but I wish your savage and barbaric and uncivilized culture dead.
That is a truly infantile ad hominem.
I didn't make an ad hominem. I asserted a factual or credible statement.
 

thau

Well-Known Member
You're the one saying we should live in great misery and suffering because your God told you such. That's lack of good sense.
Such an idea will never happen.

We of my creed are also the ones doing the most to alleviate the sufferings of others. We have enough philosophical atheist iconoclasts sitting on their couches directing traffic for others to carry out.

Christianity does not welcome suffering, it accepts it will always be part of the human experience, physical and emotional, and recognizes the virtues in it as well. No gratitude in the heart of a demanding complaining privileged one. Jesus suffered greatly for our sins and asks us to pick up our crosses and bear our sufferings for others as well.
 
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