This is Why Your God Will Condemn You Atheist Bashers to Hell

[Trailblazer]

Also remember that the bible is suppose to be inspired by God so he could have done a better job making sure it was written down more clearly

God could have but He didn't so the logical thing to do is to try to figure out why He didn't, or at least come up with some possibilities.

 

[Nimos]

God could have but He didn't so the logical thing to do is to try to figure out why He didn't, or at least come up with some possibilities.

Guess that is right, I can even think of a few. To get us started

1. Why would God require to have anything written down, why not simply reveal the truth to everyone, if he is capable of creating everything this should not be all that hard?

2. Why not make it so everyone is born with the correct teachings of God, he could "write" it on our heart. That would reduce the amount of confusing quite a bit I think. Remember

Jeremiah 31:33
33 Rather, this is the covenant that I'll make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD. "I'll put my Law within them and will write it on their hearts. I'll be their God and they will be my people.

So guess one could wonder if God can write the laws or put them within them, why not the teachings as well?

3. Probably the most logic to me, is that God is man made and therefore never did it. But guess that is not going to be an accepted possibility, right?

 

[Kenny]

An open letter to atheist bashers.​

Dear Atheist Basher,

Let's get real. If there is a god, and if that god is (as you atheist bashers seem to believe) personally interested in your morals and values, then what possible grounds do you have to assume even for a nanosecond that god is going to want to spend eternity next to someone as hateful as you?

I mean, you not only figuratively froth at the mouth with hatred when bashing atheists, you so very often lie about atheists when you bash atheists. What are the odds your god is going to want you and your kind by their side?

If I was you, and I believed in the personal god you believe in, I would first beg that god to forgive me for being a hateful person, and then I would spend the rest of my life trying to appreciate and understand this world, their creation, rather than spend even one more minute condemning it.

I'm not BSing you: That is exactly what I would do if I believed in your god but had spent as many years as you have bashing atheists -- atheists and only your god knows how many other people and groups of people.

Oh by the way, if I believed in your god, I would expect to spend eternity in hell right alongside people who bash theists like you bash atheists. So, you might want to get to like theist bashers. Seems to me you're going to be spending a whole lot of time with them if you are right about your god. But it should not be too hard for you to get to like theist bashers. After all, you have so much in common with them.

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did --- I sure as certain would not be bashing atheists -- and perhaps just about everyone else -- while expecting a pleasant reward for being hateful and (most often) deceptive.

Sincerely.

______________________
And now....

I'm not an atheist basher... nor is God. I LOVE that theist bashers and "God so loved the world (even atheists) that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him will not perish but have everlasting life"

Come to think of it, the only people Jesus bashed were the religious people hindering others from understanding God.

 

[littleme]

It is right to question people who make statements about their religion that cannot be backed up with any facts.

 

[robocop (actually)]

There's a slippery slope, though.
I'm okay (honestly) with any Christian trying to save me. At times it can be 'nice' even.

Often times it's not much to do with me though. It's easy to tell the difference, really. They're either arguing against 'cardboard cutout atheism' or we're having a conversation.

A conversation requires both speaking and listening, and I wouldnt describe such Christians as 'atheist bashers'.
Indeed, it's as likely that I'll give them something to think about as the other way. I respect people who look to converse with those different to themselves, whatever the sphere.

Yeah you're supposed to love each other and be practical about it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

No, I didn't imagine you weren't perceptive enough to realize we were obviously speaking of hypotheticals. Since you speak of God as if God is evil; I am just going along with your hypothetical scenario. Yet you continue to judge God based on your own failing human reasoning. It's irrational.

As in the story of Job; God did not really answer Job's charges. God basically just asked Job what he knew about anything. Yet, Job was a righteous man. Again I say; who are you to accuse God? Wisdom tells us you are just a man and even if you were the most intelligent person to ever live yet you would not know enough to argue with God and prove God is evil.

I conclude that all your reasoning and arguments about how evil God is are irrelevant.

And it's odd that you are not PERCEPTIVE enough to know that if I don't believe in the existence of God, then any notion that I think I'm smarter than (or stupider than) a non-existent God is just silly. And, for the record, I also believe that the stories of Job, Abraham and most of all the rest is pure mythology, not historical accounts.

Likewise, I don't think I'm taller than (or shorter than) any non-existent thing. Get it?

 

[shmogie]

Loving your enemies isn't about be treated badly and just sit back. We actively try to correct the evil doers. We show them the path of God and we pray for them that they see the light. We are not punchbags. That's what I understand from the message of love. If we love, we can help others love too. The Orthodox Christians try to spread the message of love to be part of everyone's life. someone who refuses to accept love, we don't abandon them but we try our best to help them. We try to cure evilness.

Wonderful. Apparently Orthodox Christians don't follow Christs admonition to speak the truth, and if it us rejected to move on.

If I engage an atheist on RF, and the result is personal abuse, I move on.

You are free to take it if you choose, but being a doormat and accomplishing absolutely zero for the faith is a net loser position as far as I am concerned.,

The winner is the nasty atheist who gets to vent his spleen and make every effort to show you to be a fool, his intent in the first place..

 

[shmogie]

Obviously you shouldn't. Any religious person that believe God is the final judge in the end, should see little reason to bash atheists for simply demanding evidence for God. Any atheists having a go at God will ultimately be punished by him if need be.

But my guess is that you can find atheists, just as well as theists that feel a need or that its their job to defend or ridiculous others beliefs to justify their own.

For me, I see no issue in questioning someones beliefs or their scriptures, but I would never have a go at them for believing differently than me. But I will to the extend of my knowledge argue against what they are saying, if it is not supported by their scriptures, but merely stuff that they have made up, because they believe that is how it is. But this is more out of respect for the scriptures than anything else.

You are speaking of a civil discussion, and I totally agree with you. I have had many productive and enjoyable conversations with atheists,

We have in this forum some new atheists, those that adopt the philosophy of the leaders of the new atheist movement. They are angry at Christianity, and want to destroy it. Personal attack and ridicule are one their methods.

They are not worth my time to engage, they employ childish and gutter tactics. They can talk to themselves, certainly not to me. I will not be their whipping boy.

Some reside now in my ignore list.

 

[shmogie]

I make no such claim. What I do claim is that it is certainly possible that I can be more intelligent -- and a lot better informed -- than those who invented god in the first place. And I know the difference between right an wrong -- and ordering the sacrifice of a child (thus scaring the **** of him and his father, too), and the slaughter and rape of innocents I put on the side of "wrong." Theists apparently see that differently when God does it. That's baffling beyond belief.

But I forget -- you cannot even imagine that I don't actually believe there is such a thing as the god you worship. That is a big failure of imagination on your part, which is really quite surprising, since you have no difficulty at all imagining your deity.

I think you ought to re read the story of Abraham and his son. You don't understand it.

Imagination can take many forms. I have met many who thought they were normal, when they weren't.

 

[ZenMonkey]

An open letter to atheist bashers.​

Dear Atheist Basher,

Let's get real. If there is a god, and if that god is (as you atheist bashers seem to believe) personally interested in your morals and values, then what possible grounds do you have to assume even for a nanosecond that god is going to want to spend eternity next to someone as hateful as you?

I mean, you not only figuratively froth at the mouth with hatred when bashing atheists, you so very often lie about atheists when you bash atheists. What are the odds your god is going to want you and your kind by their side?

If I was you, and I believed in the personal god you believe in, I would first beg that god to forgive me for being a hateful person, and then I would spend the rest of my life trying to appreciate and understand this world, their creation, rather than spend even one more minute condemning it.

I'm not BSing you: That is exactly what I would do if I believed in your god but had spent as many years as you have bashing atheists -- atheists and only your god knows how many other people and groups of people.

Oh by the way, if I believed in your god, I would expect to spend eternity in hell right alongside people who bash theists like you bash atheists. So, you might want to get to like theist bashers. Seems to me you're going to be spending a whole lot of time with them if you are right about your god. But it should not be too hard for you to get to like theist bashers. After all, you have so much in common with them.

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did --- I sure as certain would not be bashing atheists -- and perhaps just about everyone else -- while expecting a pleasant reward for being hateful and (most often) deceptive.

Sincerely.

______________________
And now....

I love it! Ok, so I didn't read the entire opening post. I got turned off by the frothing at the mouth and hateful tone, but ... I think that may have been done purposely, dry humor maybe, or as satire type parody or something. Anyway, I love it. Btw, have a nice day

 

[Shiranui117]

Most theists do not seem to comprehend their hateful attitudes toward non-believers as such. From what I have been able to understand, they view themselves as spreading love in the name of their god. And then they wonder why non-believers view their god as the villain.

They're all just tsunderes, like in those romcom or harem animes. "I-it's not like I care or anything... B-baka! Just go to literal hell already! >///<"

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Wow, really! Like that has anything to do with my posts

Sorry, it's just that I missed the part where you get to assume people are atheists if they don't believe in an interventionist God.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Yeah you're supposed to love each other and be practical about it.

Erm...why?
Oh wait...you mean from a Christian point of view?

 

[syo]

Wonderful. Apparently Orthodox Christians don't follow Christs admonition to speak the truth, and if it us rejected to move on.

If I engage an atheist on RF, and the result is personal abuse, I move on.

You are free to take it if you choose, but being a doormat and accomplishing absolutely zero for the faith is a net loser position as far as I am concerned.,

The winner is the nasty atheist who gets to vent his spleen and make every effort to show you to be a fool, his intent in the first place..

We can't excommunicate people easily.

 

[stvdv]

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did

This is Why Your God Will Condemn You Atheist Bashers to Hell

I also don't believe in your God
Nor in a condemning God, nor in a "God created Hell"

This is Why Your God Will NOT Condemn You Atheist Bashers to Hell
Nor will Your God Condemn our Atheist Brothers to Hell

 

[David J]

Romans 12:17

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Erm...why?
Oh wait...you mean from a Christian point of view?

Yes, as a good Christian. That's very clear from the scriptures.

 

[74x12]

And it's odd that you are not PERCEPTIVE enough to know that if I don't believe in the existence of God, then any notion that I think I'm smarter than (or stupider than) a non-existent God is just silly. And, for the record, I also believe that the stories of Job, Abraham and most of all the rest is pure mythology, not historical accounts.

Likewise, I don't think I'm taller than (or shorter than) any non-existent thing. Get it?

Then I can no longer take your rants about how evil God is seriously. You won't listen to counter points. You'll just retreat to the ol' "God's not real anyway" cliche.

 

[Trailblazer]

Guess that is right, I can even think of a few. To get us started

1. Why would God require to have anything written down, why not simply reveal the truth to everyone, if he is capable of creating everything this should not be all that hard?

2. Why not make it so everyone is born with the correct teachings of God, he could "write" it on our heart. That would reduce the amount of confusing quite a bit I think. Remember

Jeremiah 31:33
33 Rather, this is the covenant that I'll make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD. "I'll put my Law within them and will write it on their hearts. I'll be their God and they will be my people.

So guess one could wonder if God can write the laws or put them within them, why not the teachings as well?

3. Probably the most logic to me, is that God is man made and therefore never did it. But guess that is not going to be an accepted possibility, right?

I am not sure this is the right thread to discuss this. Last weekend I started a thread entitled
Would/Should God communicate directly to everyone in the world?

Maybe you can meet me over there. I will respond to what you said here on that thread.
Maybe you can even respond to my OP on that thread if you want to.

 

[Desert Snake]

atheism like any other false idea, does not make for good chances concerning hell, so forth.

Not really my problem what you do with that information.