Three scriptural reasons Barack Obama is the Beast

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Iraq is fine. What are you talking about?

The Current Situation in Iraq | United States Institute of ...
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Iraq has been ravaged in recent years by cycles of warfare, an internally displaced persons (IDPs) crisis, crippling sectarianism and, most destructively, a three-year campaign to drive ISIS from the third of the country it controlled. Even after the military defeat of ISIS, Iraq continues to face severe challenges including resolving the political, sectarian, and tribal conflicts that fueled .

 

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The Current Situation in Iraq | United States Institute of ...
https://www.usip.org/publications/2019/03/current-situation-iraq
Iraq has been ravaged in recent years by cycles of warfare, an internally displaced persons (IDPs) crisis, crippling sectarianism and, most destructively, a three-year campaign to drive ISIS from the third of the country it controlled. Even after the military defeat of ISIS, Iraq continues to face severe challenges including resolving the political, sectarian, and tribal conflicts that fueled .

Yep.. and Iraq is still there.

 

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In Revelation “earth” represents Israel and “sea,” the Gentile nations as defined in Rev. 17:15. This same meaning is also explicit all over the Bible (Dan 7; 9:26; 11:10, 40; Ps 65:7; 144:7; Is 8:7-8; 17:12; 60:5; Jer 46:7-8; 47:1-2; 51:55-56; Ez 26:3; Na 1:8).

Thus the beast out of the sea with its 7 heads represents Rome and its Caesars beginning with the 1st, Julius Caesar.

You seem like a child who throws mud on a wall, and tries to see what will stick. "The beast coming out of the sea, having 10 horns and 7 heads" (Revelation 13:2) "was like a leopard"/Greece (Daniel 7:6) & feet were as those of a bear/Persia (Daniel 7:5), "mouth like a lion"/Babylon (Daniel 7:4), "one of his heads as if it were slain"/Rome (Daniel 7:7-12). Julius Caesar would be the 5th head of the beast, with the Augustus Caesars, the healed Caesar, being the 6th head, which would have 10 horns, starting with Octavian and ending with Titus.

I don't know where you pulled "earth" represents Israel apart from there will be a new heaven and earth whereas Israel will be the new sanctuary of the LORD (Ezekiel 37:28) & (Revelation 21:1). The "another beast coming up out of the earth" (Revelation 13:11) represents a king with the same authority as the beast of Revelation 13:4, and that would be Constantine, the 7th head of the beast, who was a Roman emperor, and not representative of Israel, for he will as "another" (king), will "wear down the saints" (Daniel 7:25). You seem confused. Possibly being an fan of Mohammad, Paul, and Jesuits might have been a source of your confusion.

Revelation 13:11 11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

 

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Yep.. and Iraq is still there.

So is Greece, Rome, and Persia/Iran (Daniel 7:24). Only their "dominion" was taken away. They still exist for an "appointed period of time". The "one like a son of man" has not taken control (Daniel 7:13-14), whereas all the nations "might serve him".

Daniel 7:12 12(The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)

 

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So is Greece, Rome, and Persia/Iran (Daniel 7:24). Only their "dominion" was taken away. They still exist for an "appointed period of time". The "one like a son of man" has not taken control (Daniel 7:13-14), whereas all the nations "might serve him".

Daniel 7:12 12(The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)

The prophecies about Babylon, Tyre and Egypt are simply wrong. Further, the "beast" of Revelation is the Roman Emperor(s).

 

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You seem like a child who throws mud on a wall, and tries to see what will stick. "The beast coming out of the sea, having 10 horns and 7 heads" (Revelation 13:2) "was like a leopard"/Greece (Daniel 7:6) & feet were as those of a bear/Persia (Daniel 7:5), "mouth like a lion"/Babylon (Daniel 7:4), "one of his heads as if it were slain"/Rome (Daniel 7:7-12). Julius Caesar would be the 5th head of the beast, with the Augustus Caesars, the healed Caesar, being the 6th head, which would have 10 horns, starting with Octavian and ending with Titus.

I don't know where you pulled "earth" represents Israel apart from there will be a new heaven and earth whereas Israel will be the new sanctuary of the LORD (Ezekiel 37:28) & (Revelation 21:1). The "another beast coming up out of the earth" (Revelation 13:11) represents a king with the same authority as the beast of Revelation 13:4, and that would be Constantine, the 7th head of the beast, who was a Roman emperor, and not representative of Israel, for he will as "another" (king), will "wear down the saints" (Daniel 7:25). You seem confused. Possibly being an fan of Mohammad, Paul, and Jesuits might have been a source of your confusion.

Revelation 13:11 11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

The “beast” of Revelation 13:2 comes out of the “sea,” meaning that this beast comes from the world. In Revelation 10:2-6 there is an angel who stands with one foot on the “land” and the other on the “sea,” meaning that he has authority over both the people of God and the people of the world.

 

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The “beast” of Revelation 13:2 comes out of the “sea,” meaning that this beast comes from the world. In Revelation 10:2-6 there is an angel who stands with one foot on the “land” and the other on the “sea,” meaning that he has authority over both the people of God and the people of the world.

Revelation 10 is a message to the "things" in the earth, the sea, and the heavens. You might want to read your references before you post them.

Revelation 10:6 And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!

 

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The prophecies about Babylon, Tyre and Egypt are simply wrong. Further, the "beast" of Revelation is the Roman Emperor(s).

What prophesies? I didn't mention Tyre, or Egypt. And the city of Babylon is desolate. Apart from jackals, no one lives there. As for Roman emperors, there were more than 7 emperors.

Ancient Babylon was located in Mesopotamia between the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. Today, the remains of the city are spread out over a cluster of mounds located on the Euphrates about 60 miles southwest of Baghdad, Iraq.
Ancient Babylon - allabouthistory.org
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Jeremiah 51:37 Babylon will become a heap of rubble, a ...
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Babylon will be a heap of ruins, a haunt of jackals, an object of horror and scorn, a place where no one lives. and Babylon will become a heap of ruins, haunted by jackals. She will be an object of horror and contempt, a place where no one lives.

 

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What prophesies? I didn't mention Tyre, or Egypt. And the city of Babylon is desolate. Apart from jackals, no one lives there. As for Roman emperors, there were more than 7 emperors.

Ancient Babylon was located in Mesopotamia between the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. Today, the remains of the city are spread out over a cluster of mounds located on the Euphrates about 60 miles southwest of Baghdad, Iraq.
Ancient Babylon - allabouthistory.org
www.allabouthistory.org/ancient-babylon.htm

Jeremiah 51:37 Babylon will become a heap of rubble, a ...
https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/51-37.htm
Babylon will be a heap of ruins, a haunt of jackals, an object of horror and scorn, a place where no one lives. and Babylon will become a heap of ruins, haunted by jackals. She will be an object of horror and contempt, a place where no one lives.

Iraq is not a heap of rubble.

Domitian was the eleventh Roman Emperor after Julius Caesar. Domitian was the Emperor of Rome when the apostle John was given to write the Book of Revelation while being held as a Roman political prisoner on Patmos (see the Fact Finder question below).

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Iraq is not a heap of rubble.

Domitian was the eleventh Roman Emperor after Julius Caesar. Domitian was the Emperor of Rome when the apostle John was given to write the Book of Revelation while being held as a Roman political prisoner on Patmos (see the Fact Finder question below).

The 6th head of the beast had 10 horns, not 11 horns (Daniel 7:7). To say John wrote in the time of Domitian, after the destruction of Jerusalem, kind of undermines your partial Preterist doctrine. And the city of Babylon is a heap/mounds of ruins. Julius Caesar was the beast of Revelation 13:3, and the healed beast, would be the 10 following emperors through to Titus, who actually destroyed Jerusalem.

Ancient Babylon was located in Mesopotamia between the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. Today, the remains of the city are spread out over a cluster of mounds located on the Euphrates about 60 miles southwest of Baghdad, Iraq.
Ancient Babylon - allabouthistory.org
www.allabouthistory.org/ancient-babylon.htm

 

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The 6th head of the beast had 10 horns, not 11 horns (Daniel 7:7). To say John wrote in the time of Domitian, after the destruction of Jerusalem, kind of undermines your partial Preterist doctrine. And the city of Babylon is a heap/mounds of ruins. Julius Caesar was the beast of Revelation 13:3, and the healed beast, would be the 10 following emperors through to Titus, who actually destroyed Jerusalem.

Ancient Babylon was located in Mesopotamia between the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. Today, the remains of the city are spread out over a cluster of mounds located on the Euphrates about 60 miles southwest of Baghdad, Iraq.
Ancient Babylon - allabouthistory.org
www.allabouthistory.org/ancient-babylon.htm

I didn't say John wrote in the time of Dominitian.. but, he was as terrible to the Jews as Nero. Julius Caesar doesn't figure into the letter at all.

John of Patmos identifies himself as "your brother in tribulation".. You think he was lying?

 

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Julius Caesar was the beast of Revelation 13:3,

It probably was Caesar Nero instead.

 

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It probably was Caesar Nero instead.

You can't be a horn of the beast, which Nero was the 5th horn of the "healed" beast, ruling as an Augustus Caesar, and be the slain (Revelation 13:3) beast/Caesar as well. Nero did not rule as a dictator for 42 months, and "all on the earth" have not worshipped Nero. It was Caesar who was declared the god. Nero is simply riding on Caesars coattails. The dictatorship came by way of Caesar. Nero was like a wart on a witches nose. Of little historical affect, then or now.

 

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You can't be a horn of the beast, which Nero was the 5th horn of the "healed" beast, ruling as an Augustus Caesar, and be the slain (Revelation 13:3) beast/Caesar as well.

Nero did not rule as a dictator for 42 months, and "all on the earth" have not worshipped Nero. It was Caesar who was declared the god. Nero is simply riding on Caesars coattails. The dictatorship came by way of Caesar. Nero was like a wart on a witches nose. Of little historical affect, then or now.

There was extravagant worship demanded by, and received by, Nero during and after his reign.

This included offering sacrifices to Nero’s spirit in the public square even after his death. One statue of Nero stood more than 110 feet high, and coins and other inscriptions hailed him as “Almighty God” and “Savior.”

He was hailed as Apollo, Hercules, “the only one from the beginning of time,” and even rulers from other lands had to publicly worship both Nero and his images which were set up on lofty platforms.

As for the reference to “the whole earth,” this can either be understood as referring to the Roman Empire (cf. Luke 2:1), or to Israel ..

It’s a historical fact that Nero began to persecute the Christians throughout the Roman Empire in mid-November 64 AD.

This intense persecution only ended when Nero committed suicide in June 68 AD. Thus he made war on the saints for a period of exactly 42 months.

 

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There was extravagant worship demanded by, and received by, Nero during and after his reign.

This included offering sacrifices to Nero’s spirit in the public square even after his death. One statue of Nero stood more than 110 feet high, and coins and other inscriptions hailed him as “Almighty God” and “Savior.”

He was hailed as Apollo, Hercules, “the only one from the beginning of time,” and even rulers from other lands had to publicly worship both Nero and his images which were set up on lofty platforms.

As for the reference to “the whole earth,” this can either be understood as referring to the Roman Empire (cf. Luke 2:1), or to Israel ..

It’s a historical fact that Nero began to persecute the Christians throughout the Roman Empire in mid-November 64 AD.

This intense persecution only ended when Nero committed suicide in June 68 AD. Thus he made war on the saints for a period of exactly 42 months.

And yet, Nero has had little affect on the "those who dwell on the earth" today, and only those following the dogmas of the "beast with two horns like a lamb", Constantine, are carrying the mark of the beast. That would be the "Christians", and not the Jews. All Augustus Caesars were considered gods, because the Roman Senate had decreed Caesar a god. You, like your fellows, are calling "Christians" saints, whereas they follow the false prophet Paul, and his false gospel of grace, which is a gospel of lawlessness/sin. The "Christians" still worship the sun god Sol Invictus, by virtue of Constantine decree of 321 AD, not your Nero. As for historical fact, there is little fact around the rumors around Nero. He apparently killed Paul, and as Paul was the god of "Christians", and therefore fake news took over the discourse. Nero didn't play the fiddle while Rome burned, for the fiddle had not even been invented. Constantine's column dwarfed Nero's column, and he used the image of Apollo for its face, and the crown of the sun god Sol Invictus. And as for the "beast" of Revelation 13:3, he was "slain", and did not commit suicide.


In Constantine's day the column was at the center of the Forum of Constantine (today known as Çemberlitaş Square), an oval forum situated outside the city walls in the vicinity of what may have been the west gate of Antoninia. On its erection, the column was 50 meters tall, constructed of several cylindrical porphyry blocks. The exact number of porphyry blocks is disputed, but common figures range from seven, up to as many as eleven.[2] These blocks were surmounted by a statue of Constantine in the figure of Apollo.
Column of Constantine - Wikipedia

 

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And yet, Nero has had little affect on the "those who dwell on the earth" today, and only those following the dogmas of the "beast with two horns like a lamb", Constantine, are carrying the mark of the beast. That would be the "Christians", and not the Jews.

All Augustus Caesars were considered gods, because the Roman Senate had decreed Caesar a god. You, like your fellows, are calling "Christians" saints, whereas they follow the false prophet Paul, and his false gospel of grace, which is a gospel of lawlessness/sin. The "Christians" still worship the sun god Sol Invictus, by virtue of Constantine decree of 321 AD, not your Nero. As for historical fact, there is little fact around the rumors around Nero.

He apparently killed Paul, and as Paul was the god of "Christians", and therefore fake news took over the discourse. Nero didn't play the fiddle while Rome burned, for the fiddle had not even been invented. Constantine's column dwarfed Nero's column, and he used the image of Apollo for its face, and the crown of the sun god Sol Invictus. And as for the "beast" of Revelation 13:3, he was "slain", and did not commit suicide.


In Constantine's day the column was at the center of the Forum of Constantine (today known as Çemberlitaş Square), an oval forum situated outside the city walls in the vicinity of what may have been the west gate of Antoninia. On its erection, the column was 50 meters tall, constructed of several cylindrical porphyry blocks. The exact number of porphyry blocks is disputed, but common figures range from seven, up to as many as eleven.[2] These blocks were surmounted by a statue of Constantine in the figure of Apollo.
Column of Constantine - Wikipedia

What is your religion? You seem to just hate everyone.

Nero, if he played an instrument at the time, would have strummed a lyre. However while Rome was burning, it is said that he was inspired to compose a poem describing the burning of Troy.

Nero stabbed himself in the neck with the help of a servant. Maybe you should look up the definition of "slain".

Why did you say Paul was God?

Nero’s Murderous Path to Power

https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/nero

 

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What is your religion? You seem to just hate everyone.

Nero, if he played an instrument at the time, would have strummed a lyre. However while Rome was burning, it is said that he was inspired to compose a poem describing the burning of Troy.

Nero stabbed himself in the neck with the help of a servant. Maybe you should look up the definition of "slain".

Why did you say Paul was God?

Nero’s Murderous Path to Power

https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/nero

The image of Nero, among other false images, is one of him fiddling while Rome burned, and not one of him demurely playing a lyre/harp. One isn't slain by oneself. As for the Jewish/circumcised followers of Peter (Galatians 2:7), they had apparently been thrown out of Rome because of the conflict between them and Paul's "Christian" followers. Apparently, when Herod fell out of favor, so went Paul's stock. Peter and Paul, the foundation of the "Christian" church, are both treated as speaking for God. Peter by way of the pope, who can supposedly speak for God (ex cathedra), and considers himself Christ on earth, and Paul, who thinks he supposedly speaks for God, and curses anyone who should contradict him. And why do you lie about what I say? Paul is apparently a god to you and your friends the "Christians". Apparently, Mohammad appears to be god like to you as well. Paul, as the false prophet, whose demon spirit is still active (Revelation 16:13), is a god in the sense his unclean/demon spirit can not die, and can only be thrown into the lake of fire when the time comes (Revelation 20:10). The same would apparently apply to the "beast"/Caesar, who was the 5th head of the beast of Revelation 13, "who was and is not" (Revelation 17:11), and who was the source of the authority for the beast "with two horns like a lamb" (Revelation 13:11-12), who was Constantine, the 7th head of the beast. Nero was simply the 5th horn of the 6th head of the beast, and who simply ticked off the "Christians" by apparently killing Paul. Paul was probably killed for political reasons, especially as he was linked to Herod, and Herod found himself in the dog house with Nero.

https://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Pope_Rome_blasphemy_power_Jesus
Throughout the centuries of Rome's existence, the popes have regularly claimed to be divine. As the supposed successor of Peter, the Pope claims infallibility, the position of God on Earth, and ability to judge and excommunicate angels.

 

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The image of Nero, among other false images, is one of him fiddling while Rome burned, and not one of him demurely playing a lyre/harp. One isn't slain by oneself. As for the Jewish/circumcised followers of Peter (Galatians 2:7), they had apparently been thrown out of Rome because of the conflict between them and Paul's "Christian" followers. Apparently, when Herod fell out of favor, so went Paul's stock. Peter and Paul, the foundation of the "Christian" church, are both treated as speaking for God. Peter by way of the pope, who can supposedly speak for God (ex cathedra), and considers himself Christ on earth, and Paul, who thinks he supposedly speaks for God, and curses anyone who should contradict him. And why do you lie about what I say? Paul is apparently a god to you and your friends the "Christians". Apparently, Mohammad appears to be god like to you as well. Paul, as the false prophet, whose demon spirit is still active (Revelation 16:13), is a god in the sense his unclean/demon spirit can not die, and can only be thrown into the lake of fire when the time comes (Revelation 20:10). The same would apparently apply to the "beast"/Caesar, who was the 5th head of the beast of Revelation 13, "who was and is not" (Revelation 17:11), and who was the source of the authority for the beast "with two horns like a lamb" (Revelation 13:11-12), who was Constantine, the 7th head of the beast. Nero was simply the 5th horn of the 6th head of the beast, and who simply ticked off the "Christians" by apparently killing Paul. Paul was probably killed for political reasons, especially as he was linked to Herod, and Herod found himself in the dog house with Nero.

https://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Pope_Rome_blasphemy_power_Jesus
Throughout the centuries of Rome's existence, the popes have regularly claimed to be divine. As the supposed successor of Peter, the Pope claims infallibility, the position of God on Earth, and ability to judge and excommunicate angels.

You're one of those "Christians" who can't feel good unless you are tearing others down.
Is the Pope infallible?

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Answer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the pope is infallible when he speaks from his position of authority on a particular issue or doctrine (speaking ex cathedra). Many misunderstand “papal infallibility” as indicating that everything the pope says is infallible.

Is papal infallibility biblical? - gotquestions.org
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You're one of those "Christians" who can't feel good unless you are tearing others down.
Is the Pope infallible?

Image: bastionbooks.com
Answer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the pope is infallible when he speaks from his position of authority on a particular issue or doctrine (speaking ex cathedra). Many misunderstand “papal infallibility” as indicating that everything the pope says is infallible.

Is papal infallibility biblical? - gotquestions.org
www.gotquestions.org/papal-infallibility.html

The pope is supposedly infallible when he says he is infallible. An example is for him to put Mary in heaven, when in affect, she is in her grave. That should let you know how infallible he really is. And who told you I was a "Christian"? That is your claim, not mine. The time of the pope, the successor of Peter to "fall", is slated for "in that day" (the day of the LORD) (Isaiah 22:25). Of course, all those "hanging" onto him will be "cut off".

 

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The pope is supposedly infallible when he says he is infallible. An example is for him to put Mary in heaven, when in affect, she is in her grave. That should let you know how infallible he really is. And who told you I was a "Christian"? That is your claim, not mine. The time of the pope, the successor of Peter to "fall", is slated for "in that day" (the day of the LORD) (Isaiah 22:25). Of course, all those "hanging" onto him will be "cut off".

The pope is supposedly infallible when he says he is infallible. An example is for him to put Mary in heaven, when in affect, she is in her grave. That should let you know how infallible he really is. And who told you I was a "Christian"? That is your claim, not mine. The time of the pope, the successor of Peter to "fall", is slated for "in that day" (the day of the LORD) (Isaiah 22:25). Of course, all those "hanging" onto him will be "cut off".

Isaiah wasn't talking about the Pope.