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Three scriptural reasons Barack Obama is the Beast

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
section is SCRIPTURAL DEBATES

I posted real scripture

yet not one person has debated it

they just call names since they have closed minds and eyes

veiled ignorance is all I see

now debate

or keep your stones to yourself
Because there is nothing to debate.

If the world is engulfed in nuclear destruction whoever did it is a beast, to be charitable about it. I don't need coded messages in bronze age literature to know that.

And even if Obama is the individual who first pushes the button, it will be a global group effort including the powerful elite from China, Saudi Arabia, and all the rest of them. I think the world is headed that way myself. But I doubt that it will be any USonian who hits first.

Not that it will matter who it is.

Tom
 

xic

Member
It's 109

Roman numerals

666 was used to say the number was hidden

You can't arrive at 666 or 616 in Greek without the use of the Digamma and the Digamma was not in use at the time of the NT writings.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Then why are you blabbering on a forum about 'scriptural debate'?

Isn't there an athiest section for you views?
Because you didn't post this in that forum.
Frankly I don't much bother with atheist sections. I already know about that.

Tom
 

xic

Member
Actually, unless a world leader emerges with a new money system the world adapts to and then destroys the world

There cannot be a literal BEAST of revelations

However, in 26 months if obama hasn't set off his cache of nukes

Then as usual him having so many esoteric connections to this prophecy will mean nothing

I find the whole obama thing amusing

LOL
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Actually, unless a world leader emerges with a new money system the world adapts to and then destroys the world

There cannot be a literal BEAST of revelations

However, in 26 months if obama hasn't set off his cache of nukes

Then as usual him having so many esoteric connections to this prophecy will mean nothing

I find the whole obama thing amusing

LOL
Are you saying that this thread is a Poe?

Tom
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If world events allow Barack Obama to use nukes and destroy most if not all the world, then here is a scriptural foundation as to why he is the beast.

666 is connected to the name he used as a child, his step father was named SoeToRO, he used the name as a child in Indonesia, Barry SoeToRO.

STRO has a value of 666 in Kabbalah in Hebrew, how you would spell that name.

Jesus said in Mark 10:18 he saw SATAN fall as LIGHTNING

Barack is LIGHTNING in Hebrew BRQ

The oldest fragment of Revelations has been found, it is known as P 115, it shows XIC or CIX as the real number

In CIX is roman numerals the most common number system at the time of Jesus, so CIX is 109 in Roman numerals

109 is Lightning in Kabbalah what Jesus called Satan

109 is BZQ or Bazack

The twin to that word is BRQ or Barack

Jesus named Barack or Bazack since both mean lightning

P 115 names Lightning

666 is the Hidden Number which is STRO or the name Barack used as a child

If Barack goes out as president of the USA in 2017 without using nukes, then he is not the beast

If he does, now you all know why he is the beast, scripture identifies him as a POSSIBLE candidate, his deeds will label him in history as either Beast or a mere man
Big Bird just told me that you are actually "the beast". Please provide objective evidence that BB is wrong-- otherwise I'll just have to assume that BB's right. I'll anxiously await your response. :rolleyes:
 

sooda

Veteran Member
If world events allow Barack Obama to use nukes and destroy most if not all the world, then here is a scriptural foundation as to why he is the beast.

666 is connected to the name he used as a child, his step father was named SoeToRO, he used the name as a child in Indonesia, Barry SoeToRO.

STRO has a value of 666 in Kabbalah in Hebrew, how you would spell that name.

Jesus said in Mark 10:18 he saw SATAN fall as LIGHTNING

Barack is LIGHTNING in Hebrew BRQ

The oldest fragment of Revelations has been found, it is known as P 115, it shows XIC or CIX as the real number

In CIX is roman numerals the most common number system at the time of Jesus, so CIX is 109 in Roman numerals

109 is Lightning in Kabbalah what Jesus called Satan

109 is BZQ or Bazack

The twin to that word is BRQ or Barack

Jesus named Barack or Bazack since both mean lightning

P 115 names Lightning

666 is the Hidden Number which is STRO or the name Barack used as a child

If Barack goes out as president of the USA in 2017 without using nukes, then he is not the beast

If he does, now you all know why he is the beast, scripture identifies him as a POSSIBLE candidate, his deeds will label him in history as either Beast or a mere man

Barak was a Jewish General at the time of Deborah.

The beast was the Roman Emperor.. Where do you come up with such bad scholarship.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Barak was a Jewish General at the time of Deborah.

The beast was the Roman Emperor.. Where do you come up with such bad scholarship.

Not exactly. The 8th head of the beast, the last head of the beast, and the one that is now, is the one "who was, and is not", during the 6th head of the beast (Revelation 17), and is the 5th head of the beast, Julius Caesar, who ruled for 42 months as a dictator, was slain, and healed (Revelation 13:3-8), as the Augustus Caesars. The 7th head of the beast, who was the "beast with two horns like a lamb", who was the "another" king of Revelation 13:11), and has deceived "those who dwell on the earth", was Constantine, the instituter of the Roman church. As for the earth blowing up under nuclear weapons, that game will start in "Jerusalem" per (Zechariah 14:1-3 & 12), and this set up by Obama giving 150 billion dollars worth of currency to Iran to support jihadist, and build their nuclear program. Obama was simply one of the leading "kings of the whole earth", such as the 10 horns of the beast (Revelation 17:12), who were to be gathered to Har-Magedon by the demon spirits of the "beast", the "false prophet" and the "dragon" (Revelation 16:13-16). The time of YHWH's valley of judgment (Joel 3:2 & 12), where the nations are gathered for judgment, is "near, right at the door" (Matthew 24:33).
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Not exactly. The 8th head of the beast, the last head of the beast, and the one that is now, is the one "who was, and is not", during the 6th head of the beast (Revelation 17), and is the 5th head of the beast, Julius Caesar, who ruled for 42 months as a dictator, was slain, and healed (Revelation 13:3-8), as the Augustus Caesars. The 7th head of the beast, who was the "beast with two horns like a lamb", who was the "another" king of Revelation 13:11), and has deceived "those who dwell on the earth", was Constantine, the instituter of the Roman church. As for the earth blowing up under nuclear weapons, that game will start in "Jerusalem" per (Zechariah 14:1-3 & 12), and this set up by Obama giving 150 billion dollars worth of currency to Iran to support jihadist, and build their nuclear program.

Obama was simply one of the leading "kings of the whole earth", such as the 10 horns of the beast (Revelation 17:12), who were to be gathered to Har-Magedon by the demon spirits of the "beast", the "false prophet" and the "dragon" (Revelation 16:13-16). The time of YHWH's valley of judgment (Joel 3:2 & 12), where the nations are gathered for judgment, is "near, right at the door" (Matthew 24:33).

The money that Obama "gave" Iran was Iran's money frozen since 1979.

The five that have fallen are Egypt, Assyria, Neo-Babylonia, Persia, and Greece.

The BEAST is Roman emperors... starting with Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 165 BC (Remember the abomination of desolation?)

Julius Caesar was dictator of Rome from 49 BCE to 44 BCE... Remember he turned Rome from a Republic to an Empire... and was killed for proclaiming himself Emperor.

In 68 AD Nero committed suicide (with help) by stabbing himself in the neck.

The Year of the Four Emperors was 69 AD.

That was the year the had FOUR emperors who ruled in succession: Galba, Otho, Vitelliu, and
Vespasian who was the father of Dominitan.

Otho also committed suicide.

The one that is, the sixth kingdom, is Rome. The seventh king, the one who “has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while” would be Vespasian’s son Titus, who reigned briefly from A.D. 79–81.

Titus was Vespasian's eldest son, and Domitian was his younger son. Together, they made up the group of Flavian emperors.

If you believe Revelation then you know all this change happened 40 years (a generation) after the crucifixion.

Much too early to be Constantine

Obama wasn't involved at all...
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The idea that Obama was somehow referred with the narrative of the beast is so absolutely ludicrous that it should be the opening joke on SNL this weekend. OTOH, if the idea is that it's Trump, ... :D

The book of Revelation was written for the early Church dealing with events near the latter part of the first century, and the basic theme is "Don't worry-- God's got your back", which undoubtedly was a VERY welcomed message because of the persecution of the Church that all too often meant death.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The idea that Obama was somehow referred with the narrative of the beast is so absolutely ludicrous that it should be the opening joke on SNL this weekend. OTOH, if the idea is that it's Trump, ... :D

The book of Revelation was written for the early Church dealing with events near the latter part of the first century, and the basic theme is "Don't worry-- God's got your back", which undoubtedly was a VERY welcomed message because of the persecution of the Church that all too often meant death.

The thought that Revelation was a message of "Don't worry-God has your back", kind of overlooks the whole message. A case in point: Revelation 9:18, "A third of man kind was killed". As for the 8th head of the beast, the last beast, he "was, and is not" during the period when Revelation was written, the 6th head of the beast. (Revelation 17:9-11). The 10 horns of the 8th head of the beast will hate the "harlot" that being Judah, the Jews, and will persecute and burn her. Obama's clandestine gift of 150 billion to Iran, is a direct threat to the U.S., where approximately 1/2 of Jews live, and Israel, where the other approximately 1/2 live. Trump on the other hand has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and actually supports Jews and Jerusalem. Those that curse Jacob will be cursed. You might want to look into your own life, and your apparent twisted views.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The thought that Revelation was a message of "Don't worry-God has your back", kind of overlooks the whole message. A case in point: Revelation 9:18, "A third of man kind was killed". As for the 8th head of the beast, the last beast, he "was, and is not" during the period when Revelation was written, the 6th head of the beast. (Revelation 17:9-11). The 10 horns of the 8th head of the beast will hate the "harlot" that being Judah, the Jews, and will persecute and burn her. Obama's clandestine gift of 150 billion to Iran, is a direct threat to the U.S., where approximately 1/2 of Jews live, and Israel, where the other approximately 1/2 live. Trump on the other hand has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and actually supports Jews and Jerusalem. Those that curse Jacob will be cursed. You might want to look into your own life, and your apparent twisted views.
You are talking Scofield no the Bible.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The five that have fallen are Egypt, Assyria, Neo-Babylonia, Persia, and Greece.

The "five that have fallen" at the time of the writing of Revelation refers to the beasts of Daniel, with respect to Judah, not Jacob, or the inclusion of the "house of Israel" which had been "scattered among the nations", and the first head of gold was Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 2).

The BEAST is Roman emperors... starting with Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 165 BC (Remember the abomination of desolation?)

Antiochus was Greek, not Roman, and was a representative of the horn of the

3rd head of the beast, who was represented by Alexander the Great.

In 68 AD Nero committed suicide (with help) by stabbing himself in the neck

Nero "deceived" no one (Revelation 13:11-14) and had no "two horns", and was not healed (Revelation 13:3).

If you believe Revelation then you know all this change happened 40 years (a generation) after the crucifixion.

Now you are making things up. Revelation says nothing of the kind. You are confusing Matthew with Revelation, and that is not what it says.

The 8th head of the beast, would appear as the feet of iron and clay, just before the rock made without hands, crushes all the kingdoms of Daniel 2:35 (Daniel 2:44-45). That would be the "end of time" of Daniel 12:9,and the "end of the age" of Matthew 13:39-42) when the "wicked" will not "understand" the outcome of those events (Daniel 12:8).
 
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