Tipping

[Subduction Zone]

I've run across other situations where the IRS
taxes income never received. **** the IRS.

As a poor student I did not feel that what I was doing was unethical at all. Bad student! Naughty!!

 

[Revoltingest]

Or at least simultaneously in one city. When Seattle started their fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage (now over $16.00) restaurants noted that on their menus since they did have to raise prices and said that tipping was still appreciated but not ethically mandatory.

How'd that work out?

 

[Alien826]

They prefer to be called the "living impaired".

What are their pronouns?

 

[Alien826]

The real problem with moving to tipless dining
is that it's such a radical change, it would all
have to happen simultaneously....I think.
Tough to coordinate.

When I first read that I thought you said "topless dining". Seemed like a good idea. Then I read it again.

I'm sure it could be done. What it needs is a strong movement in that direction from the staff and /or customers. Then a few brave people would do it then more, then a flood. It's not an impossible system. In Japan nobody tips and it can be considered insulting that you would suggest that they wouldn't give a good service anyway.

On the other hand, there may be too much vested interest among the employers and the servers in up-scale restaurants (who do very well on tips) and not enough desire for change on the part of customers.

 

[Revoltingest]

What are their pronouns?

A good question. You too must be very woke.
I suspect that transitioning to that state wouldn't
change gender identity, so it would vary with
the individual.

 

[Revoltingest]

When I first read that I thought you said "topless dining". Seemed like a good idea. Then I read it again.

I'm sure it could be done. What it needs is a strong movement in that direction from the staff and /or customers. Then a few brave people would do it then more, then a flood. It's not an impossible system. In Japan nobody tips and it can be considered insulting that you would suggest that they wouldn't give a good service anyway.

On the other hand, there may be too much vested interest among the employers and the servers in up-scale restaurants (who do very well on tips) and not enough desire for change on the part of customers.

Tipless dining would be better...that much
is generally agreed upon. However if it
ain't broke, there's little desire to bite the
bullet, & change it.

It's like people who store things with me.
Every month, it's easier to have the rent
automatically paid than it is to get rid of
their junk...which is the wiser thing to do.
And so it continues.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When I first read that I thought you said "topless dining". Seemed like a good idea. Then I read it again.

I think that we would have to move the thread to the Eros Room for that discussion.

I'm sure it could be done. What it needs is a strong movement in that direction from the staff and /or customers. Then a few brave people would do it then more, then a flood. It's not an impossible system. In Japan nobody tips and it can be considered insulting that you would suggest that they wouldn't give a good service anyway.

On the other hand, there may be too much vested interest among the employers and the servers in up-scale restaurants (who do very well on tips) and not enough desire for change on the part of customers.

I don't know what the tipping situation is in Seattle these days. The base pay of waiters and for everyone else is over $16.00 an hour.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The real problem with moving to tipless dining
is that it's such a radical change, it would all
have to happen simultaneously....I think.
Tough to coordinate.

Many laws and regulations have a start day. It never has been a problem. Ideally it would coincide with the tax year.
Though there would not be a problem were you to continue to tip for exceptional service.

 

[Revoltingest]

Many laws and regulations have a start day. It never has been a problem. Ideally it would coincide with the tax year.

Still, it hasn't happened yet.
Difficult.