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Tired of seeing extremely over the top violent movies and tv shows

Massimo2002

Active Member
For example crap such as the boys and terrifier. You would have to be a psychopath filled with hatred to enjoy such over the top violent crap. But nonetheless this is what is popular in this decade over the top violence perhaps Hollywood is just sick and perverted or maybe people are becoming sick and perverted I don't quite understand it.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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For example crap such as the boys and terrifier. You would have to be a psychopath filled with hatred to enjoy such over the top violent crap.

I like horror movies and know many people who do, and none of us are psychopaths or filled with hatred. The same goes for liking video games with highly violent content, such as Grand Theft Auto.

It's mainly about distinguishing between reality and fiction, but partially also about what role the violent depictions have in the story. A depiction of a supernatural clown violently attacking people on Halloween as a villain in an over-the-top horror movie is quite different from a depiction of a serial killer violently attacking people and being portrayed as some sort of hero.

But nonetheless this is what is popular in this decade over the top violence perhaps Hollywood is just sick and perverted or maybe people are becoming sick and perverted I don't quite understand it.

There's much more nuance to it than this. Extremely violent adult-only movies are actually a niche, and there's a reason horror movies in particular don't tend to gross nearly as much as, say, animation or drama at the box office. There's no evidence whatsoever that most people who watch violent movies (which may or may not be in the horror genre) are sick or perverted, just like there's no evidence that most people who play extremely violent video games are either of these things.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
For example crap such as the boys and terrifier. You would have to be a psychopath filled with hatred to enjoy such over the top violent crap. But nonetheless this is what is popular in this decade over the top violence perhaps Hollywood is just sick and perverted or maybe people are becoming sick and perverted I don't quite understand it.

I agree, and even movies that cater to the young, such as the Marvel series, are pathetically violent.
 

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Vipassana
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I agree, and even movies that cater to the young, such as the Marvel series, are pathetically violent.

Do you think all or most people who like some violent movies (or perhaps also violent video games) have to be psychopaths, filled with hatred, sick, or perverted—as the OP put it?

(I don't watch Marvel movies, so I can't comment on their content relative to their age ratings in the US. I also agree that movies rated PG definitely shouldn't show strong violence.)
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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I haven't observed this, but I also don't pay any attention to movies/TV media. I'm a gamer, and the games I play are from a wide variety of genres few of which include what could be considered "over the top violence." Many of my favorites are non-violent. As I've gotten older, I've come to feel that couching your video game - or your movie or TV show - in violence is often lazy writing and storytelling. It is a simple way to create interest or drama that doesn't require much work (on the part of the consumer or the producer) compared to elaborate world building, compelling gameplay, deep characters, and so on.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
For example crap such as the boys and terrifier. You would have to be a psychopath filled with hatred to enjoy such over the top violent crap. But nonetheless this is what is popular in this decade over the top violence perhaps Hollywood is just sick and perverted or maybe people are becoming sick and perverted I don't quite understand it.
Not only that stuff, but it seems EVERY drama movie or series has to be about someone doing heinous bodily harm to someone else, or to many someone else's. Every other offering is a show about cops hunting some 'super-predator', or about some dystopian nightmare, and I keep wondering who wants to watch that stuff? Isn't reality scary enough these days? Also they're so formulaic and unoriginal.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Not only that stuff, but it seems EVERY drama movie or series has to be about someone doing heinous bodily harm to someone else, or to many someone else's. Every other offering is a show about cops hunting some 'super-predator', or about some dystopian nightmare, and I keep wondering who wants to watch that stuff? Isn't reality scary enough these days? Also they're so formulaic and unoriginal.
Don't get me started on The Road. And actually, I don't think I've seen the movie because the book was bad enough for me.
 

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Vipassana
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I haven't observed this, but I also don't pay any attention to movies/TV media. I'm a gamer, and the games I play are from a wide variety of genres few of which include what could be considered "over the top violence." Many of my favorites are non-violent. As I've gotten older, I've come to feel that couching your video game - or your movie or TV show - in violence is often lazy writing and storytelling. It is a simple way to create interest or drama that doesn't require much work (on the part of the consumer or the producer) compared to elaborate world building, compelling gameplay, deep characters, and so on.

This brings to mind how the 2018 God of War has a much subtler approach to graphic violence than the original trilogy: much of the violence is toned down, off-screen, or not accompanied by as much blood and splatter as in the earlier games. Kratos himself (the main character, for those who are not familiar with the games) is a lot more mature and averse to unnecessary conflict.

The same applies to Grand Theft Auto IV: while it is still quite violent, it doesn't depict blowing people's heads off like some GTA games before it, and its story casts the violence that it does show in a much darker light than prior games did.

I think the darker and less over-the-top approaches in both of the above examples helped to make both games' stories far deeper and more meaningful than their predecessors in the same series.
 

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Vipassana
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Don't get me started on The Road. And actually, I don't think I've seen the movie because the book was bad enough for me.

I haven't read the book, but I loved the movie. Stellar performances all around and a grim, moving tale about fatherhood and loss.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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You know what I hated about it? I hated the hopelessness, the utter grimness. And it was a work of fiction!

It certainly had a lot of hopelessness and grimness. I don't think it's the kind of movie one watches to have fun; it seems to me that it's meant more to induce pangs of emotion and contemplation. As far as that goes, I think it was remarkably effective.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It certainly had a lot of hopelessness and grimness. I don't think it's the kind of movie one watches to have fun; it seems to me that it's meant more to induce pangs of emotion and contemplation. As far as that goes, I think it was remarkably effective.
I don't know - like I said, I just read the book, didn't see the movie. I generally love very sad movies though, but the book The Road seemed just terrible to me.

But I also hated The Boy In The Striped Pajamas movie and lots of people loved it. My gosh, it was a work of fiction for pete's sake! In my defense, I did love Sophie's Choice though. But though it was very sad, it also had a bit of hope to it.
 

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Vipassana
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I don't know - like I said, I just read the book, didn't see the movie. I generally love very sad movies though, but the book The Road seemed just terrible to me.

I haven't read the book, as I said, but from what I have read about it, the overall themes are the same between it and the movie. I may give it a read sometime.

There was a scene based on a specific passage from the book, so I looked up that passage to read the original description. It was stomach-turning, which was clearly what the author was going for.
 
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