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To any Atheists, I Have a Few Scenarios for you to Look At.

Magic Man

Magic Man

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Alceste said:
Hm - a man walks into a room full of English speakers and delivers, in English, a summary of what he feels is a reasonable opinion of their collective mentality. No big words, no fancy, affected foreign phrases, no speech impediment. Everyone in the room says "No, you're wrong". What is the most likely explanation?

A) Nobody understood what he was saying.
B) He is wrong.
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Well, I think you'd be equally justified believing either of those two options. ;)
 
DarkSun

DarkSun

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DarkSun

DarkSun

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Mestemia said:
Yes, you have made yourself clear.
Why it is you think that the only reason no one agrees with you is because of not understanding is beyond me.

We do understand what you are saying.
It's just that you are flat out wrong.



Yes, the choir pats you on the back and you assume that that validates your position.
Of course, that type of ratification is a large part of what is wrong in the world.

so how many people have to disagree with you before you actually stop and realize that you might actually be wrong?

I mean, it only takes four people to agree with you to make you think that anyone who disagrees must not understand your position...
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What choir? I e-mailed two theists and two atheists. Perhaps you missed that previous post? I can post someone from the other group if you like?

By the way, I'm not basing what I think is right or wrong solely on who agrees or disagrees. I'm basing it on what makes sense to me, and what is logical to me. I just wanted to make sure that what I was saying really wasn't illogical, so I e-mailed them the thread... and they said they understood what I was saying and that there was some validity in it. :S
 
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Magic Man

Magic Man

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DarkSun said:
Everyone outside of this forum understood what I was saying. Which seems a bit odd.
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How so? Everyone in this thread understands what you're saying, too. You're just wrong is all. Now, it's not really odd that your friends would support you. What's odd is that you keep referencing them as if it means something. First, the appeal to numbers isn't a very good argument. Second, it does no good unless they come here and say something. As I showed before, anyone can say "Hey, I showed this to a bunch of friends and they all agreed with me".

Also, Alceste, I think this thread by Storm sums up what I was saying. You didn't seem to disagree with him as much as you do with me, for some reason.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/82959-all-religions-equally-valid.html
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First, unless you're talking about someone else on the thread, Storm is a woman.

I don't feel like reading all 14 pages, but there's a big difference between saying "All religions are equally valid" and "Belief and disbelief in God are equally justified".

You could say all religions are equally valid in that they all rest on faith (which may or may not be completely accurate). And yet, that still means that they're not necessarily as justified as disbelief. Saying "All religions are equally valid" is not much different from saying "Belief in the tooth fairy and belief in Santa Claus are equally justified".

You seem to be mixing things up here for some reason. Are you purposely trying to confuse things to make it sound like you're right, or do you not realize you're doing it?
 
Magic Man

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
DarkSun said:
What choir? I e-mailed two theists and two atheists. Perhaps you missed that previous post? I can post someone from the other group if you like?

By the way, I'm not basing what I think is right or wrong solely on who agrees or disagrees. I'm basing it on what makes sense to me, and what is logical to me. I just wanted to make sure that what I was saying really wasn't illogical, so I e-mailed them the thread... and they said they understood what I was saying and said there was some validity in it. :S
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That's why he mentioned the choir. As in, it's like asking your mother whether you're smart. Of course your mom's going to agree that you're smart. Why don't you ask some people who aren't predisposed to support you, like, say, a bunch of people on a forum, to find out whether or not your idea is illogical?
 
DarkSun

DarkSun

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mball1297 said:
That's why he mentioned the choir. As in, it's like asking your mother whether you're smart. Of course your mom's going to agree that you're smart. Why don't you ask some people who aren't predisposed to support you, like, say, a bunch of people on a forum, to find out whether or not your idea is illogical?
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Or like asking a random dentist from Romania that I barely know whether I'm making sense? <_<
 
DarkSun

DarkSun

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mball1297 said:
How so? Everyone in this thread understands what you're saying, too. You're just wrong is all. Now, it's not really odd that your friends would support you. What's odd is that you keep referencing them as if it means something. First, the appeal to numbers isn't a very good argument. Second, it does no good unless they come here and say something. As I showed before, anyone can say "Hey, I showed this to a bunch of friends and they all agreed with me".
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Are you deliberately mis-representing me?



First, unless you're talking about someone else on the thread, Storm is a woman.
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I edited that ten minutes ago.

I don't feel like reading all 14 pages, but there's a big difference between saying "All religions are equally valid" and "Belief and disbelief in God are equally justified".

You could say all religions are equally valid in that they all rest on faith (which may or may not be completely accurate). And yet, that still means that they're not necessarily as justified as disbelief.[/quote]

Is disbelief based on more evidence than belief, then?

Saying "All religions are equally valid" is not much different from saying "Belief in the tooth fairy and belief in Santa Claus are equally justified". [/quote]

Yes. Yes they are.

You seem to be mixing things up here for some reason. Are you purposely trying to confuse things to make it sound like you're right, or do you not realize you're doing it?
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Why can't you see the connection? Why? After more than thirty pages, why not? I've explained, clarified, re-explained... for thirty pages.

I'm sorry, but if you still don't get it, then I don't think you're going to. Fine. It's my problem. I'm deliberately not trying to understand you. That makes sense. >_>

I promise I won't bring this up again. It's not worth it. :foot:
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DarkSun

DarkSun

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whereismynotecard said:
:D I wasn't meaning to be nit-picky... Just thought I'd point it out. It would be difficult to word it much differently...
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I'll give it a go all the same. :D

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The edit button disappeared. That sucks.

I was about to change the thread title to:

"Click Hear to Watch DarkSun get Owned."
 
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Magic Man

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
DarkSun said:
She.

And yes... she speaks five languages fluently.

I hadn't contacted her for a year before I sent her the thread.
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So, in other words, she's a friend of yours, and therefore fits into the aptly named "friend of yours" category. What's so hard to understand about the fact that your friends are going to tend to support and agree with you and tell you that you're doing a good job?
 
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