Salaams brother
Note my brother i do not believe in luck.My faith is in the hands of Allah.
Allah guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills.
I pray and thank my Rabb for blessing me with Islam and ask of him to increase my knowledge of his deen.
Salam.
Brother, just like you, we do not believe in luck. I meant Waffaqakallah( May Allah grant you success ).
We say, الحمد لله الذي جعلنا من المتمسکين بولاية علي بن ابي طالب و اولاده المعصومين من آله
Do not think we believe in luck.
Brother you state that hadith is fake so lets look at Shia hadith.
Shia Source:
“The Prophets did not leave dinars and dirhams as inheritance, but they left knowledge.”
(al-Kafi, vol. 1 p. 42)
My source:
" Rasoolullah (pbuh) said, "We leave no inheritance, what we leave behind us is sadaqah."
The hadith has been reproduced through
Abu Hurairah in
Sahih Muslim.
So is this hadith also fake?
Can give you much more from other reliable sources as well.
1.Yes. That Hadith had an origin. But Abu Bakr distorted its meaning and invented a new meaning for it. Indeed, he made a shortened version of a Hadith( Note that what is in Al-Kafi and Sunni authentic books which I will mention, is the origin text of Hadith ). So, when Abu Bakr said that Hadith, Imam Ali and Abbas immedietly saw him to be a liar, sinful, treacherous, and dishonest(
Sahih Muslim; Umar said to Ali and Abbas, "Abu Bakr said: ‘The Messenger of Allah (S) had said: We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity.’
So both of you (Ali and Abbas) saw him (Abu Bakr) to be a liar, sinful, treacherous, and dishonest." ).
I will explain the correct text and meaning of the Hadith in the following.
2. If Prophet said that saying and meant what Abu Bakr siad and acted upon it, why did Umar give the rights of the relatives of Prophet to them? Why???
3. In addition, why did Abu Bakr want to give the rights of Lady Fatima to her, but when Umar didn't let him, he didn't do it?( See, post #27, part 2 )
4. Why did Imam Ali and Lady Fatima( those who are between Ahlul Bayt, about whom Allah sent the verse of purity and Prophet said that we must follow them ) did not accept the saying of Abu Bakr? Also, Prophet said that the right is with Ali, the right is with Ali.
But what is the true text and meaning of the Hadith.
Lets look at Quraan.
The inheritance of Prophets (as) is Deen/ Knowledge.
“We gave (in the past) knowledge to Dawud and Sulaiman, and they both said: ‘Praise be to Allah, Who has favored us above many of his servants who believe!’ And Sulaiman was Dawud’s heir. He said: ‘O you people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah).’” (Quran, 27:15-16)
“Therefore We gave the Book as inheritance (awrathna) to such of Our servants as We have chosen” (Quran, Surah Fatir)
“Those are the Inheritors (al-warithun) who will inherit Paradise.” (Quran, Surah al-Mu’minoon)
Brother, those verses says that
Allah gave the knowledge, Book or Paradise to so and so person or Prophet.
Our discussion is about the iheritance of the offspring of Prophets
from their fathers, not from Allah.
The first verse which you mentioned said, '
We[ Allah ] gave in the past knowledge to Dawud and Sulaiman'
The second one says,
We[ Allah ] gave the Book as inheritance.
The third one says that so and so person will inherite the Paradise. There are verses which say Allah is Who will give them the Paradise. For example 19:63, 'That is Paradise which
We[ Allah ] shall give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who are godfearing.'
But the verse which I mentioned is completely different and is about the inheriting of the offspring of Prophets from them, not from Allah( Who should
inherit me and inherit from the children of Yaqoub...[ 19:6 ] ).
See the saying of one the greatest scholar of yours and the Hadith which he has narrated from Prophet,
وقوله : ( يرثني ويرث من آل يعقوب ) يقول : يرثني من بعد وفاتي مالي ، ويرث من آل يعقوب النبوة
And the saying of Prophet Zakariyya, ' Who should inherit me and inherit from the children of Yaqoub
' means, Who should inherit from me my property after my demise, and inherit from the children of Yaqoob the Prophethood[ by the will of Allah ].
حدثنا أبو كريب ، قال : ثنا جابر بن نوح ، عن مبارك ، عن الحسن ، قال : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : " رحم الله أخي زكريا ، ما كان عليه من ورثة ماله حين يقول فهب لي من لدنك وليا ، يرثني ويرث من آل يعقوب " .
Haasan narrated,
The Messenger of Alla said, ' May Allah bless my brother, Zakariyya. He did not have any heir who
inherite from his property when he said,'[O Allah! ] therefore grant me from Thyself an heir, Who should inherit me and inherit from the children of Yaqoub'
(Source, Tafsir At-Tabari( Jami'ul Bayan 'an Ta'wili Ayel Ghor'qn ), V.21, P.184. See the part which is for interpretation of the verse 19:6)
Shia Source:
Rasulullah (pbuh) said: “... And the ‘Ulama(scholars) are the heirs of the Ambiya; and the Ambiya did not leave dinars and dirhams as inheritance; but they left knowledge. Therefore whosoever takes knowledge has taken a great portion.” (al-Kafi, vol. 1 p. 42)
Ali ibn Ibrahim narrates from his father, from Hammad ibn ‘Isa, on the authority of [‘Abdullah ibn Maymun] al-Qaddah that Abu ‘Abdillah [imam Ja‘far as-Sadiq] ‘alayhis salam said: Rasulullah sallallahu ‘alayhi wa-alihi wasallam said: “Whoever walks a path seeking therein knowledge, Allah will lead him on a road to Jannah... And the ‘Ulama are the heirs of the Ambiya; and the Ambiya did not leave dinars and dirhams as inheritance; but they left knowledge. Therefore whosoever takes knowledge has taken a great portion.” (al-Kafi, Kitab Fadl al-‘Ilm, Bab Sifat al-‘Ilm wa-Fadlihi, hadith no. 2)
My source:
“Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets.” [Related byTirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasa'i, Ibn Maja, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and others] Ibn al-Mulaqqin, Zayla`i, Ibn Hajar, and others seemed it sound (hasan) or rigorously authentic (sahih)]
“Then We gave the Scripture as inheritance unto those whom We elected of Our servants.” [Qur'an, 35.32]
Brother before you go any further making a fool of yourself please study your own books and please don't tell me your hadiths are fake because that
will be an insult to your Imaams.
That Hadith in Al-Kafi and Sunni authentic books helps me to prove for you that Abu Bakr made a fake meaning for that Hadith by making a shortened version of that Hadith.
Let's read the Hadith,
‘Ulama( scholars ) are the heirs of the Ambiya( Prophets ); and the Prophets did not leave dinars and dirhams( money ) as inheritance; but they left knowledge'
Brothers, this Hadith never reject the inherinting of the offspring of Prophets from them. Because, this Hadiths is about the inheriting of scholars from the knowledge of Prophets( i.e., learning of scholars by Prophets and their Holy Books ). Hadiths meas,'
Scholars are the heirs of Prophets[ in their knowledge, see the end of Hadith ]; and the Prophets did not leave dinars and dirhams( money ) as inheritance[ for
scholars, see the first part of Hadith]
, but Prophets left knowledge[ for them]
'
The first part of the Hadith explains its throught context. The Hadith is about scholars, not the offspring of the Prophets.
Therefore, because Abu Bakr chagned the meaning of this Hadith by making a fake shortened version of it( deleting both the first and end parts of the Hadith which imply that it is about scholars and the knowledge which they learn from Prophets, not offspring of Prophets ), so that Lady Fatima got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died(
Sahih Al-Bukhari ). Also, Imam Ali and Abbas saw Abu Bakr to be a liar, sinful, treacherous, and dishonest(
Sahih Muslim; Umar said to Ali and Abbas, "Abu Bakr said: ‘The Messenger of Allah (S) had said: We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity.’
So both of you (Ali and Abbas) saw him (Abu Bakr) to be a liar, sinful, treacherous, and dishonest." )
Did you get the point?
Also, Abu Bar himself accepted that Lady Fatima inherte from the Prophet,
كلام سبط ابن الجوزي رحمه الله أنه رضي الله تعالى عنه كتب لها بفدك، ودخل عليه عمر رضي الله تعالى عنه فقال: ما هذا. فقال: كتاب كتبته لفاطمة بميراثها من أبيهافقال: مماذا تنفق على المسلمين وقد حاربتك العرب كما ترى، ثم أخذ عمر الكتاب فشقه
And Sibt Ibn Al-Jowzi said, ' Abu Bakr(May Allah bless him) wrote the proof of ownership of Fadak for Fatima. Then, Umar(RA) entered the room and said to Abu Bakr,' What is this?' Abu Bakr replied,' A writing which I wrote for Fatima,
because of her inheritance from her father( Prophet ).' Then Umar said,' So, how will you provide the maintenance of army, while you see that all the Arabs are fighting against you?' Then, Umar took the writing and teared it apart.'
( Sunni Source,
Sira Al-Halabiyyah, V. 3, P.488 )
Now go and ask your elders these questions.
Why did Nabi SAW never make a will?
I can not undestand this question. Please elaborate it.
Why did Hadrat Ali Ra did not revoke the decision of Hadrat Abu Bakr RA when he became Caliph?
Because, as soon as Imam Ali wanted to change the innovations(Bid'ahs) of 3 first Kholaph, others strongly opposed Imam Ali and didn't let him to do so. For example, when Imam Ali wanted to eliminate one of the most simple Bid'ahs( innovations in religion ) of Umar, i.e., Salat at-Tarawh, others strongly opposed him and said, Wa Umarah( Oh, the sunnah of Umar is being destryed )[ Sunni source, Sharh Nahjul Balaqa by Ibn Abil Hadid Ash-Shafe'i, V.12, P.283/ Shia source, Wasa'il Ash-Shia, V.5, P.192 ]
( Note that Az-Zahabi wrote about Ibn Abil Hadid,' العلامة البارع', namely 'He was Allama( full of the knowledge ) and Bari'( brilliant )[ See Seyr A'lam An-Nobala by Az-Zahabi, V.23, P.72 ] )
Brother, Imam Ali(a.s.) couldn't do what you said and othres did not let him do. Just like Prophet Aaron(a.s.). When people of Moses innovated new things in the religion, Aaron(a.s.) couldn't do anything, because others opposed him and even wanted to kill him.
Waffaqakallah!
