To those who follow Joy of Satan and do the Dedicating your soul Ritual to Lucifer/Satan.

[ScottySatan]

It would be better to use red ink in a fountain pen though, as the real thing just turns brown and looks ugly.

This reminded me of the Addams family movie. The kids are rehearsing a sword firght from Macbeth. Uncle Fester stands up and shouts "No No! It's all wrong! Havent either of you ever run a man through? It's much uglier than that!".

 

[Adramelek]

So you say... despite obvious overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Without the freedom to move through the world and live one's life in accordance with their own mind and will there is no hope of working and striving towards becoming the complete and supreme manifestation of one's Higher Self. Such is the quest of Xeper, and cannot be fully explored or experienced confined for life within an 8 x 9 cell, living under someone else's dictates.

 

[Aštra’el]

Without the freedom to move through the world and live one's life in accordance with their own mind and will there is no hope of working and striving towards becoming the complete and supreme manifestation of one's Higher Self. Such is the quest of Xeper, and cannot be fully explored or experienced confined for life within an 8 x 9 cell, living under someone else's dictates.

-Most prison sentences are not life sentences. What one experiences in prison, what thoughts they've had, what choices they made and actions they've taken will affect who and what they are when they are released.

-In prison, one is often not confined to an "8x9 cell", and rather in the presence of other human beings while experiencing other areas of the prison (dayroom/ yard/ kitchen/ showers/ halls and stairways, etc)

-Even when one is confined to their cell (whether solitary or gen pop) there is tremendous opportunity for introspection, contemplation, reflection, formulation, brainstorming, etc...

-Despite whatever "freedoms" might appear to be lost, there are an infinite number of choices that can be made in prison. How one chooses to use one's time, how one chooses to think and behave, how one chooses to interact with the environment, how one chooses to interact with prison staff or other inmates, how one chooses to make use of their connections on the outside, etc.

-Some people feel more "free" in prison than they do on the outside.

-The constant threat of danger, injury and death within many prisons can make an individual far more stronger and capable, as one learns to embrace one's strengths and cover one's weaknesses, as one does what one must do to survive. This process facilitates evolution in nature, exponentially.

-Prison often presents opportunities for field experience, personal growth, character development, knowledge acquisition, contacts and connections, and career oppurtunities for many people ;-)

 

[Adramelek]

-Most prison sentences are not life sentences. What one experiences in prison, what thoughts they've had, what choices they made and actions they've taken will affect who and what they are when they are released.

-In prison, one is often not confined to an "8x9 cell", and rather in the presence of other human beings while experiencing other areas of the prison (dayroom/ yard/ kitchen/ showers/ halls and stairways, etc)

-Even when one is confined to their cell (whether solitary or gen pop) there is tremendous opportunity for introspection, contemplation, reflection, formulation, brainstorming, etc...

-Despite whatever "freedoms" might appear to be lost, there are an infinite number of choices that can be made in prison. How one chooses to use one's time, how one chooses to think and behave, how one chooses to interact with the environment, how one chooses to interact with prison staff or other inmates, how one chooses to make use of their connections on the outside, etc.

-Some people feel more "free" in prison than they do on the outside.

-The constant threat of danger, injury and death within many prisons can make an individual far more stronger and capable, as one learns to embrace one's strengths and cover one's weaknesses, as one does what one must do to survive. This process facilitates evolution in nature, exponentially.

-Prison often presents opportunities for field experience, personal growth, character development, knowledge acquisition, contacts and connections, and career oppurtunities for many people ;-)

Perhaps you should write a book on how to self-evolve in prison GA. Your post is quite interesting and worthy of further exploration (perhaps in another thread ). However, again I state, in order for one to fully explore and experience Xeper they must be able to move through the world freely and live life in accordance with their own mind and will; able to explore, work towards, and realize their highest goals and ambitions. The confines and extreme restrictions of prison-life can only take one so far, it is hardly adequate to facilitate the glory and limitless potential of Being which can be experienced through Xeper.

 

[Parchment]

-Most prison sentences are not life sentences. What one experiences in prison, what thoughts they've had, what choices they made and actions they've taken will affect who and what they are when they are released.

-In prison, one is often not confined to an "8x9 cell", and rather in the presence of other human beings while experiencing other areas of the prison (dayroom/ yard/ kitchen/ showers/ halls and stairways, etc)

-Even when one is confined to their cell (whether solitary or gen pop) there is tremendous opportunity for introspection, contemplation, reflection, formulation, brainstorming, etc...

-Despite whatever "freedoms" might appear to be lost, there are an infinite number of choices that can be made in prison. How one chooses to use one's time, how one chooses to think and behave, how one chooses to interact with the environment, how one chooses to interact with prison staff or other inmates, how one chooses to make use of their connections on the outside, etc.

-Some people feel more "free" in prison than they do on the outside.

-The constant threat of danger, injury and death within many prisons can make an individual far more stronger and capable, as one learns to embrace one's strengths and cover one's weaknesses, as one does what one must do to survive. This process facilitates evolution in nature, exponentially.

-Prison often presents opportunities for field experience, personal growth, character development, knowledge acquisition, contacts and connections, and career oppurtunities for many people ;-)

I beg to differ, for many the years spent in prison are about simple survival and not any great introspective journey that leads to anything particularly useful and once they are released they are still bound to the system in the form of loss of freedoms sometimes for life. In the U.S. convicted felons lose the right to legally own a firearm and to vote, depending on the state and the offense these can be appealed but for many it is a life sentence. There are many jobs and positions you cannot legally hold or perform if you are a convicted felon and many opportunities that will pass you by, who is the HR office going to call back on an application for employment, the person with a clean record and solid work history or the person that spent the last eight years in prison? nobody is owed anything. The thought that having a buzzer telling you when to eat, when the lights are going out, and when and where you are supposed to move to all under strict supervision is somehow beneficial to human development I'd say is based more on wishful thinking than actual practical experience.

 

[Aštra’el]

I beg to differ

Differ away. I spoke of potential opportunity within parameters of prison; obviously not everyone seizes opportunity when it presents itself, or even recognizes it as such.

 

[Parchment]

Differ away. I spoke of potential opportunity within parameters of prison; obviously not everyone seizes opportunity when it presents itself, or even recognizes it as such.

Have you been to prison and tested out these ideas in real life? How did these ideas work out for you in real life once you got out?

 

[Kapalika]

As much as I respect the Temple of Set and many Setians of who'm I admire. I also respect the O.N.A., the O.N.A doesn't whitewash their Satanism unlike many modern satanic organizations.

The ONA groups that sprang up very quickly deteriorated into hedonism. Very few people (if any) actually went for all that Sinister stuff in a serious way that actually amounted to anything. And anyone I'd meet on the internet claiming they did or do, is 99% likely talking out of their *** and making it up.

Differ away. I spoke of potential opportunity within parameters of prison; obviously not everyone seizes opportunity when it presents itself, or even recognizes it as such.

I've known people who went to prison, it's not exactly a very conductive place to self-betterment. Actually, the way the system is designed it actually makes it harder and reinforces self-destructive patterns.

 

[Aštra’el]

The ONA groups that sprang up very quickly deteriorated into hedonism.

You mean, the few O9A groups that you had in some minor way become aware of appeared from your perspective to "quickly deteriorate into hedonism".

Very few people (if any) actually went for all that Sinister stuff in a serious way that actually amounted to anything. And anyone I'd meet on the internet claiming they did or do, is 99% likely talking out of their *** and making it up.

Most O9A nexions are comprised of people you've never heard of. This does not mean these people have not accomplished anything. This merely means you have not become aware of who these people are and what these people have done in life.

I've known people who went to prison, it's not exactly a very conductive place to self-betterment. Actually, the way the system is designed it actually makes it harder and reinforces self-destructive patterns.

Of course prison presents challenges and imposes limits that were not there before. You and Parchment entirely missed the point of my post.

 

[Kapalika]

You mean, the few O9A groups that you had in some minor way become aware of appeared from your perspective to "quickly deteriorate into hedonism".

Most O9A nexions are comprised of people you've never heard of. This does not mean these people have not accomplished anything. This merely means you have not become aware of who these people are and what these people have done in life.

Your mistake is assuming that I'm only "in some minor way" aware of the ONA. As I've said, I've found them interesting and I know more about them than you pre-suppose, but I don't take them seriously which I guess can be mistaken for unfamiliarity due to my tone.

 

[Aštra’el]

Your mistake is assuming that I'm only "in some minor way" aware of ONA groups.

My point Mandi was that your assessment could not possibly apply to all O9A nexions, or even the majority of them, because whatever aspects of O9A you might in some way be familiar with, you are not familiar with every single O9A nexion out there. Nexions are comprised of people who often take from O9A what they will to embrace and evolve it in whatever direction they choose, and use it to achieve whatever they aim to achieve... often in ways that are not openly declared over the Internet for all to see, as some have opted to do.

The O9A groups that sprang up rather quickly deteriorated into hedonism

So which deteriorated "O9A groups" in particular are you referring to?

Very few people (if any) actually went for all that Sinister stuff in a serious way that actually amounted to anything

The inaccuracy of this statement isn't nearly as relevant as the fact that you are not aquainted with everyone who has ever embraced O9A material, nor are you familiar with the life achievements of each and every one of them... so no offense Mandi but your above quote really has no basis in reality.
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