Confessions of an English AvPD-beater?
Apologies to Thomas de Quincey, and for the long post(s) - just a necessity I'm afraid.
From the title one can assume that I am almost certain that I did have AvPD (Avoidant Personality Disorder) for a long period (perhaps three of four decades) but which now appears to have essentially gone. I have never been diagnosed with any mental health issues although I did take anti-anxiety medication for many years after an apparent panic attack. The medication probably did more harm than good. I probably had other issues, such as depression and possibly social anxiety/phobia, for long periods too (certainly depression). It might just be age or fortuitous circumstances as to why I seem to have changed - but I doubt it is the former, since I did notice significant changes occurring at various points in the past. And these did seem to be related to certain events happening then or prior to this. I am male and retired now.
I self-diagnosed AvPD retrospectively some years ago, since my symptoms did accord with much of what would be seen in someone with the disorder and they didn't with all other likely conditions. I spent much of my childhood down at the library, becoming an avid bookworm and subsequently an eclectic web browser, so it has been quite natural to seek out that which interests me. I had been reading much psychology, psychiatry, and related subjects for decades since I did know that I had a problem but not really being able to pin it down properly, so perhaps I was able to recognise AvPD in myself quite quickly when I came across the symptoms online (about 2012). I have since read much material concerning AvPD, some of the relevant books available, and looked at as much material online as I am able (including some forums), dealing with this and other issues, so I am reasonably confident in my diagnosis. I am in no way qualified professionally to utter anything other than my own opinions about this of course. An online calculator, looking back to when I was at my worst, put me in the moderate to high spectrum for having the disorder (80%). Now, I feel relatively normal (16%). Hardly a substitute for a professional diagnosis though and I doubt the online tests are that reliable anyway.
The following, from one website, give the major symptoms likely for anyone having AvPD, with my symptoms highlighted and discussed (asterisks indicating degree of severity - out of five), which mostly have now gone:
* Hypersensitivity to rejection/criticism ****
* Self-imposed social isolation ****
* Extreme shyness or anxiety in social situations, though the person feels a strong desire for close relationships *****
* Avoids physical contact because of association with an unpleasant or painful stimulus ****
* Feelings of inadequacy ***
* Severe low self-esteem *****
* Self-loathing
* Mistrust of others ****
* Emotional distancing related to intimacy *****
* Highly self-conscious *****
* Self-critical about their problems relating to others ****
* Problems in occupational functioning ***
* Lonely self-perception, although others may find the relationship with them meaningful **
* Feeling inferior to others **
* In some extreme cases, agoraphobia *
* Uses fantasy as a form of escapism to interrupt painful thoughts *****
How my avoidance related to some of these issues and changes seen:
Hypersensitivity to rejection/criticism - I had noticed this to be the case quite a lot in the past, whether at work or elsewhere. At work I had often been somewhat offended by criticism of my work, much of it quite legitimate too. I noticed that I would often reject others before they even had a chance to reject me, and they might not have actually done that anyway, but it was the perception of them doing so that often made me react. On a course once, I saw this clearly when I felt criticised by one person, and subsequently just ignored him. Something that he obviously noticed, and for which he later tried to make amends, probably baffled as to why I might react so. The changes might be seen in how I can now accept or reject criticism in person or on the internet, although I do also know when to refrain from just wasting time, so I usually will not persevere when it becomes obvious that nothing will be gained. Similarly, when dealing with others, I generally have no problems, and will apologise for example when I do feel I have overstepped the mark.
Self-imposed social isolation - I was not exactly out-going in the choices of my social interacting, apart from the few friends I had. In fact, all through my life I have never really gone out of my way to meet others, apart from those I would meet through mutual activities. I suppose the natural tendency for any friends to get married and/or move away, and possibly lacking motivation to stay in contact hardly helps here. Travelling abroad, often alone, I would usually meet others, and here I was perhaps more relaxed. In such circumstances, I have even placed myself in possible danger purely out of curiosity. And often abroad, on holiday, there are many people who actually approach you, so it generally becomes easier to socialise. At least that is what I have found. But then, some often approach one with nefarious intent, particularly towards lone travellers! A few years ago, when feeling more natural after so many years in the wilderness, I even went so far as to join some dating sites but, being rational, I soon became disillusioned with these - my age hardly helping! Although I often did have one special friend (as a child and later) I doubt this actually helped, and mostly just kept me isolated from others - the one friend usually just reflecting my own personality.
Extreme shyness or anxiety in social situations, though the person feels a strong desire for close relationships - Simply an inability to approach others, especially females, and more so if I was actually attracted to them. But I did actually want close relationships with others, particularly the many females strewn along the path of life - where I inevitably tripped over them rather than having any meaningful encounters. I generally had no problems with being intimate with any females that I did meet, and I had no problems with making male friends - often having one good friend at least. This has changed too, such that I do not feel anxious in most situations, and have no qualms about posting on the internet as much information as appropriate, for example. But, I doubt I am ready for Stand-Up comedy just yet!
Avoids physical contact because it has been associated with an unpleasant or painful stimulus - The early teenage years were quite problematical due to some sexual abuse I suffered as a child, such that I withdrew from physical contact with most males. This was probably because I thought it might reawaken memories of the actual sexual abuse, and perhaps it would have done. It did take quite a while to let others in, and this probably came about from being less guarded, but also from the sexual intimacy I had with some females later in life and having more natural emotional reactions to others. There also were issues concerning questioning my own sexual orientation, which had been heterosexual and subsequently was just this, but the abuse did question this. See later.
Feelings of inadequacy - It was hard to escape from this since I was so inadequate socially, and even conversationally, since my emotional expression was so poor. My thoughts were just not translated into behaviour, or not at the time it seems, which was doubly frustrating. I think this is one major problem for avoidants, that spontaneity is often lacking, and which I would propose is probably due to emotional issues rather than anything else. Even amongst friends, unless I had imbibed a few pints, I was not exactly loquacious if there were more than one or two present. As in many situations perhaps, the more extrovert tended to dominate the conversation. This has definitely changed, since it is often quite difficult to stop me talking now, and is something I am still having to work at! Doing a lot of writing (an autobiography and finding suitable arguments for any thinking) has perhaps helped in being able to frame my thoughts better when I didn’t have a real necessity to do this before. And having to rewrite constantly to make any writing intelligible and sufficiently cogent has perhaps also made my thinking sharper. I did of course have to do much research related to this, concerning my own life and the lives of others. Writing is something that I would recommend to others, just to place all the relevant information on the table, and to perhaps enable one to recognise likely reasons as to why one might behave as one does. I also keep a journal so as to be able to store any information that seems pertinent to the things with which I am interested.
Severe low self-esteem - Why wouldn't I have this, since I was just not performing to the capabilities that I knew I had - quite intelligent (passed entrance test for Mensa, for example), reasonably good-looking, and performing well physically. Now, I just accept what I am - good, bad, indifferent - and I’m not bothered how others view me. Perhaps the internet has helped here, in that it provides many platforms for anyone to debate and argue with others without perhaps feeling too much pressure, particularly when one can remain anonymous if one chooses to do so. Chatrooms too will no doubt be of value to many. Since I have been active on quite a few forums, perhaps this has boosted my own self-esteem and self-confidence. I know that I rarely come away knowing that I have won any debates, but that doesn't really matter, it is the process of arguing that usually matters. As mentioned above, no doubt preparing one’s thoughts by writing them down, and constantly reviewing them, does help here.
Self-loathing - This didn't really apply, although I might have been disappointed in myself, my behaviour and the possibilities that I invariably missed. I did have a very loving and capable mother together with siblings with whom I got on quite well, so I don’t think I have ever felt this way about myself, and I have had many friends throughout life so as not to make me feel this way. Plus the fact that I am actually quite a nice person, or try to be, so why would I self-loathe? I have also achieved many or most of the things I have actually set out to do, so this will undoubtedly have had an effect. No lack in that direction.
Mistrust of others - The generally self-defensive posture that most avoidants have - seeing much of life as threatening, including most other people. I think it quite likely that my sexual abuse did contribute to my lack of trust in others, although there were a few traumatic incidents that might have affected this too. Such mistrust will undoubtedly be more serious when it derives from betrayal by one formerly seen as a good friend or from a loved relative, and this person was regarded as a friend. As I’ve seen mentioned elsewhere, I think this boils down to having an adult sense of trust rather than a black-and-white sense of trust that a child might have, that is, that we just become aware that people are fallible but that doesn't necessarily define them or apply to others. Like many in my situation, perhaps lack of trust was the main reason why I never really approached others, particularly any professionals, for any help.
Continued next.
Apologies to Thomas de Quincey, and for the long post(s) - just a necessity I'm afraid.
From the title one can assume that I am almost certain that I did have AvPD (Avoidant Personality Disorder) for a long period (perhaps three of four decades) but which now appears to have essentially gone. I have never been diagnosed with any mental health issues although I did take anti-anxiety medication for many years after an apparent panic attack. The medication probably did more harm than good. I probably had other issues, such as depression and possibly social anxiety/phobia, for long periods too (certainly depression). It might just be age or fortuitous circumstances as to why I seem to have changed - but I doubt it is the former, since I did notice significant changes occurring at various points in the past. And these did seem to be related to certain events happening then or prior to this. I am male and retired now.
I self-diagnosed AvPD retrospectively some years ago, since my symptoms did accord with much of what would be seen in someone with the disorder and they didn't with all other likely conditions. I spent much of my childhood down at the library, becoming an avid bookworm and subsequently an eclectic web browser, so it has been quite natural to seek out that which interests me. I had been reading much psychology, psychiatry, and related subjects for decades since I did know that I had a problem but not really being able to pin it down properly, so perhaps I was able to recognise AvPD in myself quite quickly when I came across the symptoms online (about 2012). I have since read much material concerning AvPD, some of the relevant books available, and looked at as much material online as I am able (including some forums), dealing with this and other issues, so I am reasonably confident in my diagnosis. I am in no way qualified professionally to utter anything other than my own opinions about this of course. An online calculator, looking back to when I was at my worst, put me in the moderate to high spectrum for having the disorder (80%). Now, I feel relatively normal (16%). Hardly a substitute for a professional diagnosis though and I doubt the online tests are that reliable anyway.
The following, from one website, give the major symptoms likely for anyone having AvPD, with my symptoms highlighted and discussed (asterisks indicating degree of severity - out of five), which mostly have now gone:
* Hypersensitivity to rejection/criticism ****
* Self-imposed social isolation ****
* Extreme shyness or anxiety in social situations, though the person feels a strong desire for close relationships *****
* Avoids physical contact because of association with an unpleasant or painful stimulus ****
* Feelings of inadequacy ***
* Severe low self-esteem *****
* Self-loathing
* Mistrust of others ****
* Emotional distancing related to intimacy *****
* Highly self-conscious *****
* Self-critical about their problems relating to others ****
* Problems in occupational functioning ***
* Lonely self-perception, although others may find the relationship with them meaningful **
* Feeling inferior to others **
* In some extreme cases, agoraphobia *
* Uses fantasy as a form of escapism to interrupt painful thoughts *****
How my avoidance related to some of these issues and changes seen:
Hypersensitivity to rejection/criticism - I had noticed this to be the case quite a lot in the past, whether at work or elsewhere. At work I had often been somewhat offended by criticism of my work, much of it quite legitimate too. I noticed that I would often reject others before they even had a chance to reject me, and they might not have actually done that anyway, but it was the perception of them doing so that often made me react. On a course once, I saw this clearly when I felt criticised by one person, and subsequently just ignored him. Something that he obviously noticed, and for which he later tried to make amends, probably baffled as to why I might react so. The changes might be seen in how I can now accept or reject criticism in person or on the internet, although I do also know when to refrain from just wasting time, so I usually will not persevere when it becomes obvious that nothing will be gained. Similarly, when dealing with others, I generally have no problems, and will apologise for example when I do feel I have overstepped the mark.
Self-imposed social isolation - I was not exactly out-going in the choices of my social interacting, apart from the few friends I had. In fact, all through my life I have never really gone out of my way to meet others, apart from those I would meet through mutual activities. I suppose the natural tendency for any friends to get married and/or move away, and possibly lacking motivation to stay in contact hardly helps here. Travelling abroad, often alone, I would usually meet others, and here I was perhaps more relaxed. In such circumstances, I have even placed myself in possible danger purely out of curiosity. And often abroad, on holiday, there are many people who actually approach you, so it generally becomes easier to socialise. At least that is what I have found. But then, some often approach one with nefarious intent, particularly towards lone travellers! A few years ago, when feeling more natural after so many years in the wilderness, I even went so far as to join some dating sites but, being rational, I soon became disillusioned with these - my age hardly helping! Although I often did have one special friend (as a child and later) I doubt this actually helped, and mostly just kept me isolated from others - the one friend usually just reflecting my own personality.
Extreme shyness or anxiety in social situations, though the person feels a strong desire for close relationships - Simply an inability to approach others, especially females, and more so if I was actually attracted to them. But I did actually want close relationships with others, particularly the many females strewn along the path of life - where I inevitably tripped over them rather than having any meaningful encounters. I generally had no problems with being intimate with any females that I did meet, and I had no problems with making male friends - often having one good friend at least. This has changed too, such that I do not feel anxious in most situations, and have no qualms about posting on the internet as much information as appropriate, for example. But, I doubt I am ready for Stand-Up comedy just yet!
Avoids physical contact because it has been associated with an unpleasant or painful stimulus - The early teenage years were quite problematical due to some sexual abuse I suffered as a child, such that I withdrew from physical contact with most males. This was probably because I thought it might reawaken memories of the actual sexual abuse, and perhaps it would have done. It did take quite a while to let others in, and this probably came about from being less guarded, but also from the sexual intimacy I had with some females later in life and having more natural emotional reactions to others. There also were issues concerning questioning my own sexual orientation, which had been heterosexual and subsequently was just this, but the abuse did question this. See later.
Feelings of inadequacy - It was hard to escape from this since I was so inadequate socially, and even conversationally, since my emotional expression was so poor. My thoughts were just not translated into behaviour, or not at the time it seems, which was doubly frustrating. I think this is one major problem for avoidants, that spontaneity is often lacking, and which I would propose is probably due to emotional issues rather than anything else. Even amongst friends, unless I had imbibed a few pints, I was not exactly loquacious if there were more than one or two present. As in many situations perhaps, the more extrovert tended to dominate the conversation. This has definitely changed, since it is often quite difficult to stop me talking now, and is something I am still having to work at! Doing a lot of writing (an autobiography and finding suitable arguments for any thinking) has perhaps helped in being able to frame my thoughts better when I didn’t have a real necessity to do this before. And having to rewrite constantly to make any writing intelligible and sufficiently cogent has perhaps also made my thinking sharper. I did of course have to do much research related to this, concerning my own life and the lives of others. Writing is something that I would recommend to others, just to place all the relevant information on the table, and to perhaps enable one to recognise likely reasons as to why one might behave as one does. I also keep a journal so as to be able to store any information that seems pertinent to the things with which I am interested.
Severe low self-esteem - Why wouldn't I have this, since I was just not performing to the capabilities that I knew I had - quite intelligent (passed entrance test for Mensa, for example), reasonably good-looking, and performing well physically. Now, I just accept what I am - good, bad, indifferent - and I’m not bothered how others view me. Perhaps the internet has helped here, in that it provides many platforms for anyone to debate and argue with others without perhaps feeling too much pressure, particularly when one can remain anonymous if one chooses to do so. Chatrooms too will no doubt be of value to many. Since I have been active on quite a few forums, perhaps this has boosted my own self-esteem and self-confidence. I know that I rarely come away knowing that I have won any debates, but that doesn't really matter, it is the process of arguing that usually matters. As mentioned above, no doubt preparing one’s thoughts by writing them down, and constantly reviewing them, does help here.
Self-loathing - This didn't really apply, although I might have been disappointed in myself, my behaviour and the possibilities that I invariably missed. I did have a very loving and capable mother together with siblings with whom I got on quite well, so I don’t think I have ever felt this way about myself, and I have had many friends throughout life so as not to make me feel this way. Plus the fact that I am actually quite a nice person, or try to be, so why would I self-loathe? I have also achieved many or most of the things I have actually set out to do, so this will undoubtedly have had an effect. No lack in that direction.
Mistrust of others - The generally self-defensive posture that most avoidants have - seeing much of life as threatening, including most other people. I think it quite likely that my sexual abuse did contribute to my lack of trust in others, although there were a few traumatic incidents that might have affected this too. Such mistrust will undoubtedly be more serious when it derives from betrayal by one formerly seen as a good friend or from a loved relative, and this person was regarded as a friend. As I’ve seen mentioned elsewhere, I think this boils down to having an adult sense of trust rather than a black-and-white sense of trust that a child might have, that is, that we just become aware that people are fallible but that doesn't necessarily define them or apply to others. Like many in my situation, perhaps lack of trust was the main reason why I never really approached others, particularly any professionals, for any help.
Continued next.
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