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"Torah Numerology" by Josef Sebag

robocop (actually)

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Bought "Torah Numerology" by Yosef Sebag. He did the first verse, word and letter. His favorite number was 2701 and so was I. He had a great tool kit to look for patterns. 215 pages with pictures.

The book was very impressive and completely Jewish.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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The book was very impressive and completely Jewish.
First of all, it's always nice to have someone on board qualified to vet something as being "completely Jewish." :)

That aside, while rorschach theology might be entertaining, the same might be said of astrology and cartomancy. My suggestion is that you dabble in it only on those days that your horoscope deems safe.
 

robocop (actually)

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First of all, it's always nice to have someone on board qualified to vet something as being "completely Jewish." :)

That aside, while rorschach theology might be entertaining, the same might be said of astrology and cartomancy. My suggestion is that you dabble in it only on those days that your horoscope deems safe.
I could see that it didn't explore another religion, at least in any way that a Jewish reader would see.

I have a master's in math, so I have some ability to discern order and intelligence. The author is an electrical engineer and physicist. I can tell that the first verse is special.

You can try forever to come up with the first verse and not get it, but you can verify it 5000 times.
 

robocop (actually)

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First of all, it's always nice to have someone on board qualified to vet something as being "completely Jewish." :)

That aside, while rorschach theology might be entertaining, the same might be said of astrology and cartomancy. My suggestion is that you dabble in it only on those days that your horoscope deems safe.
Actually it has 17 ways to get 1820 from combining counts of words that seem to cover everything.
It calls the chapter Divine Signature - 1820.

The author may not have known but 1820 is Joseph Smith's first vision.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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I have a master's in math, so I have some ability to discern order and intelligence.

And, like most humans, you have the ability to see what you want to see.
And, like most of us, it's more than a little difficult to unsee it afterwards.
Parenthetically, when 'discerning' Gn 1:1, do you count the aleph (א) in the first word or not*?

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* see reference to 4QGen

Actually it has 17 ways to get 1820 from combining counts of words that seem to cover everything.
It calls the chapter Divine Signature - 1820.

I'm radically underwhelmed.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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I have always counted the aleph.
And yet there is no aleph in the opening word of the 4QGen text, a Qumran textual witness almost certainly older than your source. What evidence do you have that one appeared in some hypothesized urtext? Then there's the matter of your likely rejection of the Samaritan textual variants.

But carry on ... :)
 

robocop (actually)

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And yet there is no aleph in the opening word of the 4QGen text, a Qumran textual witness almost certainly older than your source. What evidence do you have that one appeared in some hypothesized urtext? Then there's the matter of your likely rejection of the Samaritan textual variants.

But carry on ... :)
I don't reject anything. I don't reject Moby Dick.

Various religions around the world might be more or less true, but God's not going to leave people empty-handed because of what they grew up with through no choice of their own.

Ramanujan was the greatest mathematician of all time. He went up a mountain and studied math for years. 2/3rds of what he did was already known. His patterns are breathtaking. He attributed them to his Hindu gods.

God will work with the Qumran, the Samaritan, and the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
There can be Torah Codes based on things that happened at any date since God knows the end from the beginning.
 
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