Transphobia

[We Never Know]

Just because I have seen the word "transphobia" pop up several times again.

To my understanding people have transphobia if they don't agree with the views on transgenders.

Do people also suffer from christianophobia, atheistphobia, democratphobia, republicanphobia, Trumpphobia, Bidenphobia, etc?

If "youns" is a made up word, transphobia definetly is IMO.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

To my understanding people have transphobia if they don't agree with the views on transgenders.

Huh? "Transgenders" isn't a word. And what views?

To me, the only "transphobia" is denying that gender/sex dysphoria is real and thinking we're all just delusional or crazy. Honestly, a lot of that is probably a symptom of the times and all the nonsense in the media that's been presented about it lately; most people are rather ignorant about it because it was previously a rather rare thing and only adult would transition and they tended to keep it to themselves. A lot of stuff coming from the activists and self-styled advocates isn't all that helpful, either (many of whom aren't even trans at all and think they speak for all of us, like woke white people thinking they speak for black people).

 

[We Never Know]

Huh? "Transgenders" isn't a word. And what views?

To me, the only "transphobia" is denying that gender/sex dysphoria is real and thinking we're all just delusional or crazy. Honestly, a lot of that is probably a symptom of the times and all the nonsense in the media that's been presented about it lately; most people are rather ignorant about it because it was previously a rather rare thing and only adult would transition and they tended to keep it to themselves. A lot of stuff coming from the activists and advocates isn't all that helpful, either (many of whom aren't even trans at all and think they speak for all of us, like woke white people thinking they speak for black people).

Transgenders is a word. Explain.

So Bob and Ellen can't be transgenders because it isn't a word?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Transgenders is a word. Explain.

So Bob and Ellen can't be transgenders because it isn't a word?

The plural would be "transgender people". It's an adjective, not a noun.

 

[Kfox]

Just because I have seen the word "transphobia" pop up several times again.

To my understanding people have transphobia if they don't agree with the views on transgenders.

Do people also suffer from christianophobia, atheistphobia, democratphobia, republicanphobia, Trumpphobia, Bidenphobia, etc?

They origionally began using the word"phobia"out of context with homophobia, now everybody with an agenda is using the word to shame anyone who doesn't agree with them by attaching it to whatever pet behavior/idea they want to normalize.

 

[We Never Know]

The plural would be "transgender people". It's an adjective, not a noun.

I see. Same as there are no "deers", its deer.

 

[We Never Know]

They origionally began using the word"phobia"out of context with homophobia, now everybody with an agenda is using the word to shame anyone who doesn't agree with them by attaching it to whatever pet behavior/idea they want to normalize.

You won't get any arguement from me on that.
The way I see it people also have christianophobia, atheistphobia, democratphobia, republicanphobia, Trumpphobia, Bidenphobia, etc?

Phobia... an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

 

[Kfox]

You won't get any arguement from me on that.
The way I see it people also have christianophobia, atheistphobia, democratphobia, republicanphobia, Trumpphobia, Bidenphobia, etc?

Phobia... an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

I agree! Which has little to do with how the term is usually applied.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Let’s take Islamophobia for an example. It’s a word to describe more than disagreeing with Islam, but having an agenda against it.

Transphobia is often used to describe those who have an agenda against transgender people. It’s one thing to say that children shouldn’t undergo surgery or MTF women shouldn’t play in professional female sports. It is transphobia to say that transgender people are this or that to characterize anyone with gender dysphoria in a negative light.

I agree though that the word is tossed around so much it has started to become a meaningless word.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I see. Same as there are no "deers", its deer.

Erm, no. "Deer" is a noun, "transgender" is an adjective. As in "Look at all those transgender deer".

 

[Kfox]

Let’s take Islamophobia for an example. It’s a word to describe more than disagreeing with Islam, but having an agenda against it.

Transphobia is often used to describe those who have an agenda against transgender people. It’s one thing to say that children shouldn’t undergo surgery or MTF women shouldn’t play in professional female sports. It is transphobia to say that transgender people are this or that to characterize anyone with gender dysphoria in a negative light.

I agree though that the word is tossed around so much it has started to become a meaningless word.

Phobia does not meant to disapprove of, it does not mean to disagree with, it does not mean to dislike .Phobia means to fear. Any other use of the term is using it out of context. Your examples of Islam phobia and trans phobia are about dislike not fear; thus to use it that way is to use it out of context.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Phobia does not meant to disapprove of, it does not mean to disagree with, it does not mean to dislike .Phobia means to fear. Any other use of the term is using it out of context. Your examples of Islam phobia and trans phobia are about dislike not fear; thus to use it that way is to use it out of context.

Suffix. -phobia. Used to form nouns meaning fear of a specific thing. e.g. claustrophobia. Used to form nouns meaning hate, dislike, or repression of a specific thing.

-phobia - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

en.wiktionary.org

e.g. xenophobia, homophobia

 

[Kfox]

Suffix. -phobia. Used to form nouns meaning fear of a specific thing. e.g. claustrophobia. Used to form nouns meaning hate, dislike, or repression of a specific thing.

-phobia - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

en.wiktionary.org

e.g. xenophobia, homophobia

Also as the OP suggested Christianphobia, Atheistphobia, Republicanphobia, Democraticphobia and the ridicules list goes on

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Phobia does not meant to disapprove of, it does not mean to disagree with, it does not mean to dislike .Phobia means to fear. Any other use of the term is using it out of context. Your examples of Islam phobia and trans phobia are about dislike not fear; thus to use it that way is to use it out of context.

"Phobia" as a suffix to a word to denote bigoted, hateful or prejudicial attitudes towards a particular thing has been a standard part of the English language for decades.

Don't be obtuse.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Also as the OP suggested Christianphobia, Atheistphobia, Republicanphobia, Democraticphobia and the ridicules list goes on

Yeah, and therefore all other claims about a matter like say transgender are correct.
I get what you are saying, but it doesn't end there.

 

[exchemist]

Just because I have seen the word "transphobia" pop up several times again.

To my understanding people have transphobia if they don't agree with the views on transgenders.

Do people also suffer from christianophobia, atheistphobia, democratphobia, republicanphobia, Trumpphobia, Bidenphobia, etc?

If "youns" is a made up word, transphobia definetly is IMO.

I agree. I detest the lazy use of the suffix "phobia". The trans issue is very new and presents a number of problems. The stigmatising of people that raise these issues, and argue for caution in developing policy, as "transphobic" is just a way to shut down discussions that need to be had and browbeating everyone into accepting the point of view of the activists.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I agree. I detest the lazy use of the suffix "phobia". The trans issue is very new and presents a number of problems. The stigmatising of people that raise these issues, and argue for caution in developing policy, as "transphobic" is just a way to shut down discussions that need to be had and browbeating everyone into accepting the point of view of the activists.

Yes, now this is not one to one. But as a crazy person I doubt I have actually experienced phobia in regards to me. Rather I have experienced folk beliefs, that inform some people as to how they want to treat us and how we should be "taken care of". That "one" comes in many variants.

 

[exchemist]

Yes, now this is not one to one. But as a crazy person I doubt I have actually experienced phobia in regards to me. Rather I have experienced folk beliefs, that inform some people as to how they want to threat us and how we should be "taken care of". That "one" comes in many variants.

I like your description "folk beliefs", which I think gets closer to the real attitudes and prejudices people have than "phobia", which implies an actual psychiatric disorder.

It's ridiculous: nobody really thinks someone who is prejudiced against, say, black people or homosexuals is suffering from a psychiatric disorder. People with phobias need sympathy and understanding - and medical treatment.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I like your description "folk beliefs", which I think gets closer to the real attitudes and prejudices people have than "phobia", which implies an actual psychiatric disorder.

It's ridiculous: nobody really thinks someone who is prejudiced against, say, black people or homosexuals is suffering from a psychiatric disorder. People with phobias need sympathy and understanding - and medical treatment.

Here is a short version of what some people do and no, that is not crazy or anything else as a negative. It is how it works for some people.
They in effect treat their individuality as a base for universal claims about how to be a human.

 

[HonestJoe]

If "youns" is a made up word, transphobia definetly is IMO.

All words are made up. Also, the intended and understood meaning of words can vary significantly with context and change over time.

Words with the "phobia" postfix were initially used in medical contexts and typically referred to diagnoses psychological symptoms but as some moved in to common and more casual usage, the postfix was also applied in other contexts, often referring to bigotry and discrimination against some groups. "Homophobia" is probably the most prevalent example, so it's natural the "transphobia" would also come to be used in similar contexts. It would be perfectly possible for any of the terms you listed to come in to common usage but they just haven't, either with different terms of phrases used instead or the direct opposition used to infer hatred of the "other side" (rightly or not).

Regardless of whether you think they're beneficial or constructive terms to use (which I generally doubt), pretending that they're meaningless and ignoring the meaning and intent behind them (even not challenging or debating it) is dishonest and isn't going to resolve anything.