Faithofchristian
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Can you explain, As to Who those two trees of good and evil Represented ?
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Can you explain, As to Who those two trees of good and evil Represented ?
syo
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the ''golden rule'' is a hoax.
i want to eat the fruit, but i don't want a wolf to eat me. where is this ''golden rule''?
allegory, metaphorical, figuratively
the fruit is what one produces. it isn't what goes in the body that defiles someone. it's what comes out of the heart.
Matthew 7:12
12 In everything, treat others as you would want them to treat you, for this fulfills the law and the prophets.
the golden rule doesn't say do unto self what others would do unto you.
Skwim
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Kelly of the Phoenix
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Given that Adam's job was to name animals, God already set up the idea that man was to have dominion over creation. God already delegated and doesn't get to whine about it later.
Yes. It's curious that the first thing they do is start making up sins that no one ever mentioned before. And then their descendants made religion, codifying all these sins that are frequently out of touch with any semblance of reality.
Even good trees have rotten fruit if the fruit just stays on the tree to rot.
It's amazing that godhood can be obtained by a change of diet.
Has it ever occurred to you that God was once just someone who ate this magic fruit?
Maybe it got infected or something, though, which isn't the tree's fault.
74x12
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No because God made the tree ... besides it was only the serpent's lie that it was able to make them as gods. The truth was it could not do that. This serpent is obviously the same being that first said in his own heart that he would "ascend" and be "like(equal) the Most High". So, having failed miserably to achieve this; he tempts the humans to cause them to come into the same failure as himself.
PureX
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How does God "whine about it later"? Also, dominion over" can mean a lot of things. It can mean anything from 'loving caretaker' to 'ruthless predator'. What it didn't mean, I don't believe, was 'co-creator', or 'existential judge'.
One of the things I find most fascinating about the story of Eden is that the religion that enshrined it is, as you've pointed out, the indemnification of the very "original sin" that the story illuminates: mankind's false and hubristic presumption to possess the knowledge of good and evil.
Faithofchristian
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You what's more amazing, is that people think what happened in the garden of Eden, was where the original sin happen. Now that's amazing.
The original sin happen long before Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden came to be.
PureX
Veteran Member
Well, it is a story, after all. A story about human nature. And about why can't/don't live in harmony with our environment.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
No, because God verifies this was the actual reason He didn't want them to eat it. Is God lying?
God: So, do stuff.
Humans: *do stuff*
God: I WILL PUNISH YOU FOR DARING TO THINK YOU CAN DO STUFF!
(See Tower of Babel for starters and then progress to pretty much most stories in the bible where humans are trying to dominate like God told us to do.)
MonkeyFire
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The devil is war.
Electra
Active Member
Surely with passion we are entitled to the occasional war..
(not the current style of war over nothing and fabricated means but of cause)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If knowledge is paramount, it would then follow that you would need to ask the Jews.
It's Judaism's tree, Judaism's story.
It's Judaism's tree, Judaism's story.
MonkeyFire
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Imo, passion is the same as love and the opposite of war.
Electra
Active Member
yes, and some love is greater for a cause then the whole of people.
74x12
Well-Known Member
No... it's just that it wouldn't make them as gods like Eve thought. It would only make them as God in this one way that they would know good and evil. So, the serpent's deception was subtle but it is still deception.
MonkeyFire
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There are two reasons a God (Love) doesn't fight; compassion and his might.
Electra
Active Member
If your love 'aint fighting, you are a push over #sorryimnotsorry