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Trigger warning: Can Christians be gay or bisexual?

I’d define men forcibly raping anyone a gross act of inhospitality. Inhospitality was the sin of Sodom.

There is a marked difference between same-sex activity (especially as regards rape, incest, pedophilia, and temple prostitution) and sexual orientation. Sexual orientation (homosexuality) is not discussed in the Greek texts. You’re giving us a great example of eisegesis — reading into the texts what is not there.

Biblehub isn’t a scholastic source. Try again.
Scholars will argue even the 2nd until He returns but you can refer to its original Hebrew if you want proof of the e
I’d define men forcibly raping anyone a gross act of inhospitality. Inhospitality was the sin of Sodom.

There is a marked difference between same-sex activity (especially as regards rape, incest, pedophilia, and temple prostitution) and sexual orientation. Sexual orientation (homosexuality) is not discussed in the Greek texts. You’re giving us a great example of eisegesis — reading into the texts what is not there.
Romans 1:27 tells you in plain text that cannot be evaded or avoided about homosexuality. Which doctrine are you teaching? Because if it's not God's, it is of devils(1 Timothy 4:1). Which one is yours?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Sorry, I'll take Jude over your politically correct folly any day.
Fine. Misuse the texts if you feel you must. Don’t interpret the texts responsibly if you feel the need. But you don’t get to dismiss scholarship as “folly” just because you don’t understand it. It’s such scholarship that gave you a Bible to read in the first place.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Romans 1-27?

It is unclear, and it does not appear to apply to those that were born homosexual:

"In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

It seems to say don't change sides. Once straight always straight. Sort of the opposite view that many men have of "once gay always gay". If a man is homosexual he cannot abandon the relations with women that he never had.

Of course the problem is that Paul was almost certainly a homosexual himself. He was a bit of a homophobe. He grew up in a society where homosexuals were persecuted and he was fighting against that part of his nature. I would not trust such a conflicted individual.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
It is unclear, and it does not appear to apply to those that were born homosexual:

"In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

It seems to say don't change sides. Once straight always straight. Sort of the opposite view that many men have of "once gay always gay". If a man is homosexual he cannot abandon the relations with women that he never had.

Of course the problem is that Paul was almost certainly a homosexual himself. He was a bit of a homophobe. He grew up in a society where homosexuals were persecuted and he was fighting against that part of his nature. I would not trust such a conflicted individual.
No, he was living in a culture that had no concept for homosexual orientation. Therefore, all homosexual acts were thought to be “unnatural acts.” That’s why he rails against acts calling them abominations. To Paul, there could be no such thing as a mutually loving and supportive same-sex relationship. It was always “just about the lust.”
 
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