Love for Trump means you must believe otherwise.
After all, God sent him to save the country.
And protected him from assassination.
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Trump - A Great First Term?
- Thread starter Evangelicalhumanist
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After all, God sent him to save the country.
And protected him from assassination.
Foxfyre
Member
Moving the goal posts in an argument is not effective with me and repeating propaganda and talking points even less so. Trump has been good for America and Americans and the record clearly shows that. But do have a lovely day.
No, it's not that.
I merely aped your ad hominem approach to argumentation.
I illustrated that it's ineffective at persuasion.
Odd it is that you missed this obvious intent.
Who wrote that, do you think. (Hint, January 2021, plus the word "we" used throughout.)
Foxfyre
Member
You aped MY ad hominem approach? Curious interpretation. I stand by my posts. Again have a lovely day.
And yet you missed that he rang up the deficit to unprecedented levels, and by an amount never seen before - $7.8 Trillion! That's the third largest in US history, and unlike Lincoln and Bush, he didn't have civil or foreign wars to contend with. That's going to be a drag on the economy -- even Trumps, for years to come.
It's easy to do all kinds of lovely, expensive things for people -- if you can get somebody else to pay for it. In this case, of course, that "somebody else" is future generations. How proud would you be of yourself if you provided your family with all sorts of luxuries -- several homes and cars, maybe a boat or two -- and then left the bill for all of it to your children? Fortunately you can't do that -- the law won't let you. But Trump could -- and did.
You also missed among the highest death tolls from COVID-19 in the developed world, because Trump threw out the pandemic response plan left to him by Obama. He totally botched getting testing done -- South Korea was testing 3-4 times as many people a day as your United States!
And you began with a basic falsehood: "Trump inherited a sluggish economy from Obama who had the slowest recovery from recession since the Great Depression." In fact, Barack Obama’s greatest economic achievement was to prevent the Great Recession from spiraling into a full-blown depression.
By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time. That's the economy George W. Bush handed him.
Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth; rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes. That's the economy Obama handed Trump.
Look, it's easy to just find every good thing somebody has done, ignore all the bad, and then rate them second only to God. Try it with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or the endless Kims of the ROK. Just the good things, mind. See? If you ignore the mountains of bodies they all left behind, and only concentrate on anything they good they might have achieved, you can make anybody look great.
And that's what you did. I tried, in my OP, to show you how to be a little balanced. I tried to show that by assessing the good with the not-so-good, and assessing the impacts of what you present, you can try to be fair. I'm sorry that you don't think that's a worthwhile effort. But you do you, I suppose.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Most likely the Taliban used that equipment and sold it on the black market to get a lot of funding to use on God knows what and on who.
No sensible American General would ever pull out forces in the way that it happened and disregard its own forces and allies in that way.
Foxfyre
Member
I think that has been pretty much established as fact.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Continued war in Afghanistan, bombed Iran.
Failure to get Mexico to pay for a wall.
Failure to get a wall....just a few small sections.
Failure to negotiate with Kim Jong Un.
Wrecking the economy by paying people to not work.
Failure to manage Covid epidemic (other than fast tracking vaccine development).
Failure to end the deficit.
Failure to end the Afghanistan War.
Failure to get/keep nuclear agreement with Iran.
Failure to rein in Israel's apartheid.
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