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Trump approval rating is Bush Disapproval rating?

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
You wouldn't have gone third party? What if he'd been vs Bernie?

Who'd you generally support in Canada?
It would not have occurred to the to vote third or fourth party. Neither floated my boats. Against Bernie?
*Falls off chair laughing while snorting coffee out of his nose all over the screen*

I was a happy Stephen Harper supporter until Justin came along and screwed things up.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
It seems the pollsters always check the rating of new presidents at this time.
It checks what the people are thinking, not achievements.
As mentioned famously by one pollster, "I can make the polls say whatever you want. Nothing could be easier."
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
As mentioned famously by one pollster, "I can make the polls say whatever you want. Nothing could be easier."
I think there is a large element of truth to this. Especially if you can hand pick your demographics/region. A pollster in Texas would be a bit different than a pollster in Cali.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I was a happy Stephen Harper supporter until Justin came along and screwed things up.

I only asked regarding Bernie because polls show many people who voted against Hillary would have gone for Bernie vs Trump if that had been the option.

Fair enough, see who the Tories come up with as the new leader I guess. I don't that I'd have supported Trudeau either, although I suppose it would depend if I needed to go Liberal to avoid the Tories.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I only asked regarding Bernie because polls show many people who voted against Hillary would have gone for Bernie vs Trump if that had been the option.

Fair enough, see who the Tories come up with as the new leader I guess. I don't that I'd have supported Trudeau either, although I suppose it would depend if I needed to go Liberal to avoid the Tories.
My guess is that it was because he promised to legalize pot and so the zombies postponed their morning toke so they wouldn't forget to get out an vote on election day. Over a year later, pot is still illegal and Justin is spending like a drunken sailor, so the majority of Canadians think he is doing a great job. More free stuffffffff! YEAH!
 

Kirran

Premium Member
My guess is that it was because he promised to legalize pot and so the zombies postponed their morning toke so they wouldn't forget to get out an vote on election day. Over a year later, pot is still illegal and Justin is spending like a drunken sailor, so the majority of Canadians think he is doing a great job. More free stuffffffff! YEAH!

My bet's on some real progress on marijuana legalisation coming through in 2017 though! That'll make Canada the biggest country with legalised recreational cannabis, you folks will be leading the shift.

I don't know much of his party's economic policies to be honest, but I am a supporter of the social stances that his premiership is promoting.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
My bet's on some real progress on marijuana legalisation coming through in 2017 though! That'll make Canada the biggest country with legalised recreational cannabis, you folks will be leading the shift.

I don't know much of his party's economic policies to be honest, but I am a supporter of the social stances that his premiership is promoting.
Damned hippy! :D (And that's coming from a former hippy or perhaps a recovering hippy, LOL.)
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Damned hippy! :D (And that's coming from a former hippy or perhaps a recovering hippy, LOL.)
If this becomes the case, I will be interested in renting a couch in Canada... for science... reasons...
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Damned hippy! :D (And that's coming from a former hippy or perhaps a recovering hippy, LOL.)

I was born a generation too late to be a hippy!

If you mean the weed stuff, I don't really support people smoking weed, although if they wanna do it it's up to them, but I just think that having it legal is much less damaging than keeping it illegal, even if decriminalised. There's a major shift in views on this in Latin America going on, which is one the regions which has been worst impacted by the drug trade.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I was born a generation too late to be a hippy!

If you mean the weed stuff, I don't really support people smoking weed, although if they wanna do it it's up to them, but I just think that having it legal is much less damaging than keeping it illegal, even if decriminalised. There's a major shift in views on this in Latin America going on, which is one the regions which has been worst impacted by the drug trade.
In tax revenue alone I think it would be worth it.
 
I think there is a large element of truth to this. Especially if you can hand pick your demographics/region. A pollster in Texas would be a bit different than a pollster in Cali.

For the 'professional' pollsters covering politics they tend not to be deliberately biased as their reputation is built on being accurate. The reason they are not accurate is due to the difficulty of constructing a representative sample. This is why the margin of error on most polls should really be doubled from the stated level.

All of the statistics are built around having a random sample, but because polls are 'opt in' they are not truly random. The type of people who are willing to participate may often don't reflect the total public. Also people may be less willing to give certain answers is they are perceived to be controversial. Trump polled higher in automated polls rather than those carried out by a real person for example.

In addition, even given exactly the same polling data, different pollsters can arrive at different results due to methodology, while both are using perfectly legitimate methodologies.

Language is also very important and this is often better than sample composition if you do want to manipulate a poll result (it also has a big effect when people are trying to be objective too). You can genuinely turn a 75%-25% in favour in to a 75-25% against by rewording a question in a way that still means pretty much the same thing. For example:

Do you believe that those who can afford it should pay tax when bequething their estate to family members?
Do you believe that people should pay a death tax when passing on inheritance to their bereived family members?
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Do you believe that those who can afford it should pay tax when bequething their estate to family members?
Do you believe that people should pay a death tax when passing on inheritance to their bereived family members?
Ugh, I hate this. Virginia did this during the general election on two amendments for the state. Drove me nuts.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The media is reporting 40% approval rating after 1 day. Coincidentally about the same approval rating of George Bush before leaving office. They say if an alcoholic stops drinking and starts again he picks up where he left off. Human nature? Does Trump have to pick up where Bush left off.
Trump isn't leaving office quite yet. I don't see how this compares with Bush at the end of his term.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well President Trump has asked FBI Director Comey to remain FBI Director....Don't know if you would consider what has he done.
Also it appears that he has signed various Executive Orders on pipelines. Note: I think he said that the pipe used has to be made in the US
Also it is reported that he has signed an Executive Order reducing the time for EPA rulings on infrastructure projects along with other projects (didn't catch it all)
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's the second person who's said this identical thing. What has Trump accomplished in a week?

I guess that would depend on what you call an accomplishment. If you support dropping TPP and starting the ball rolling to repeal and replace the ACA, then you would consider that an accomplishment. If you are not in favor then you wouldn't. Its all perspective. And Ty, when you gonna change that hat?:cool:
 

esmith

Veteran Member
President Trump's accomplishments since winning the election....
Well bad news for some holders of firearm manufacture stocks...they have dropped in value
When the best advocates for purchasing firearms are no longer in power or ascend to power what would one expect to happen:)
 
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