Trump backed by Christie, Sessions, who next?

[Osal]

... and bigotry, and dishonesty, and crudeness, and...

Naziism.

Even a cursory glance at the history of the mid 20th century shows an alarming similarity between Trump's and Hitler's rhetoric, such as nationalsim, racial & ethic intolerance, etc. The guy likes Putin. He quotes Mussoulini. Hes a bully.

Is this the kina guy who should have nuclear weapons?

Anyone who supports Trump, supports the US becoming just like Nazi Germany.

 

[Adramelek]

Big fan of hatred?

Why are you asking me this question? I am going off topic by even answering, but I don't like to hate as it takes way too much energy that can be used for more positive purposes. I don't see Donald Trump as a hater, he has strong positions on illegal immigration and allowing persons from certain countries to enter the U.S. but that, to me, is just common sense in this day and age and does not make him a hateful person by any means.

Furthermore, this moronic Republican establishment mouthpiece, Mitt Romney, with his anti-Trump speech he gave today only increased and solidified Donald Trump's wave of support and his path to victory.

 

[Osal]

Why are you asking me this question? I am going off topic by even answering, but I don't like to hate as it takes way too much energy that can be used for more positive purposes. I don't see Donald Trump as a hater, he has strong positions on illegal immigration and allowing persons from certain countries to enter the U.S. but that, to me, is just common sense in this day and age and does not make him a hateful person by any means.

Furthermore, this moronic Republican establishment mouthpiece, Mitt Romney, with his anti-Trump speech he gave today only increased and solidified Donald Trump's wave of support and his path to victory.

Well that pretty much sums things up. Thanx.

 

[metis]

Naziism.

Even a cursory glance at the history of the mid 20th century shows an alarming similarity between Trump's and Hitler's rhetoric, such as nationalsim, racial & ethic intolerance, etc. The guy likes Putin. He quotes Mussoulini. Hes a bully.

Is this the kina guy who should have nuclear weapons?

Anyone who supports Trump, supports the US becoming just like Nazi Germany.

Overstated, imo, but you are observant.

I was sponsored by the Holocaust memorial Center to study the Holocaust here, in Poland, and in Israel in 1991, and one of the things that both amazed and depressed me was how a civilized people with an excellent educational system could fall for a guy like Hitler and his henchmen.

What went a long way in doing that was the result of a massive propaganda campaign, and a large part of that campaign was to demean certain "not a true German" peoples, make fun of them, portray them as being scum and traitors, and then just keep repeating this over and over again. Goebbels said that it was this technique that made the Third Reich. Der Sturmer was one main publication, which I believe you can see old copies on-line translated into English (I used microfiche at the Holocaust Center).

When I see Trump and some others using that same exact tactic, it makes me wonder if we ever learn the lessons that we should be learning instead of forgetting and not doing our homework. Trump and Cruz especially scare the holy bejabbers out of me because of the extensive use of these tactics, although Trump is definitely the worst.

 

[Daniel-David-Joseph]

Trump and Cruz especially scare the holy bejabbers out of me because of the extensive use of these tactics, although Trump is definitely the worst.

Thank you for an insightful, knowledgeable post.

It's hard to know what’s worse, a religious extremist who thinks they are called by God or an amoral, opportunistic bully who thinks they are God. When it comes to trump, one must admit that it's his money and his money alone that makes the man. If he weren’t born wealthy he wouldn’t be wealthy. He’d be wandering around a used car lot looking for suckers (i.e. his campaign). Everything he has, his supermodel wife, his show biz career, his political influence would evaporate in an instant if he wasn’t rich. There’s nothing there but money. No character, no intellect to speak of, no gifts at all except perhaps his talent for lying and manipulating others.

I’m not ready to say that trump and his supporters would do what hitler and the nazis did, but every day something else happens that increases my concern: the veiled threats against freedom of the press, the dissembling and waffling with regard to white supremacists, the fact that white supremacist find in trump a kindred spirit, the disgraceful expulsion of black students (who were not protesting) from a political rally…

His campaign however is not simply a competition between candidates but a referendum on the American people, just as the election of Adolf Hitler was a referendum on the Germans…

 

[Underhill]

I don't know if Trump is capable of lying. I think he speaks exactly what he thinks is true at the time. That or he is the best liar I have ever witnessed. He gives few to none of the tell tale signs of lying.

This would mean he is one of those people capable of rewriting his own truth on demand. I've known a few people like this. They are a scary bunch.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

I don't know if Trump is capable of lying. I think he speaks exactly what he thinks is true at the time. That or he is the best liar I have ever witnessed. He gives few to none of the tell tale signs of lying.

This would mean he is one of those people capable of rewriting his own truth on demand. I've known a few people like this. They are a scary bunch.

He's good at lying by repeating the lie again and again and again. Eventually it sticks. Though most politicians do this.

 

[Underhill]

He's good at lying by repeating the lie again and again and again. Eventually it sticks. Though most politicians do this.

Trump takes it to a whole new level. I've watched him lie about the dumbest things, things that he doesn't even need to lie about.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Trump takes it to a whole new level. I've watched him lie about the dumbest things, things that he doesn't even need to lie about.

The Oliver video annoys me for its lack of understanding of business. You'd be hard-pressed to find a successful investor that doesn't have some failed investments, that's the nature of investment. I also don't think it's a big deal that Trump has loaned money to his campaign, it means he has hope he'll get the money back but there's no guarantee, it's essentially a risky loan with potential of becoming bad debt that will just be written off.

 

[Underhill]

The Oliver video annoys me for its lack of understanding of business. You'd be hard-pressed to find a successful investor that doesn't have some failed investments, that's the nature of investment. I also don't think it's a big deal that Trump has loaned money to his campaign, it means he has hope he'll get the money back but there's no guarantee, it's essentially a risky loan with potential of becoming bad debt that will just be written off.

Yeah, that may be true. But there is a big difference. Compare Trump to an actual successful businessman like Warren Buffet. Buffet has had 3 bad investments of any size that I could find.

Trump has dozens of bad investments. The video didn't even touch on all of them.

I mean he inherited several hundred million dollars and he claims he is worth 8 Billion. If you just invested 150 million in the early 80's you would be worth 7.6 billion. And keep in mind that Trump claims his name is worth 3 billion of that 8 billion.

Again by comparison, Buffet started with a million in the early 50's and by the 80's was worth 1 Billion was worth 64.2 billion by 2014 and all of this while giving away tends of billions of dollars. That is success in business. Trump is, at best, average and that is really stretching.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Yeah, that may be true. But there is a big difference. Compare Trump to an actual successful businessman like Warren Buffet. Buffet has had 3 bad investments of any size that I could find.

They are more difficult to find because Buffet doesn't plaster his name on everything he invests in.

Trump has dozens of bad investments. The video didn't even touch on all of them.

If net profit exceeds loss by a considerable margin and makes him a lot of money that doesn't matter.

I mean he inherited several hundred million dollars and he claims he is worth 8 Billion. If you just invested 150 million in the early 80's you would be worth 7.6 billion. And keep in mind that Trump claims his name is worth 3 billion of that 8 billion.

Trump didn't get his father's money all in one go. His father had a net worth of $200 million and we don't know how that was split up among his kids, he only died in 1999.

He'd be worth 7.6 billion based on what? Invested it where? Is this the S&P claim? Should Trump have had psychic abilities in the 80s to invest all of his money (which wouldn't have been $200 million because he didn't have all of his father's money because his father was still alive) into the S&P? The S&P goes up and down. How would he have known it was a good investment?

Again by comparison, Buffet started with a million in the early 50's and by the 80's was worth 1 Billion was worth 64.2 billion by 2014 and all of this while giving away tends of billions of dollars. That is success in business. Trump is, at best, average and that is really stretching.

Nonsense, Buffet is literally the top of the game, if Trump doesn't measure up to Buffet's extraordinary success, that makes him average? How? And remember Trump was more focussed on real estate than Buffet who liked to spread his money around.

 

[Underhill]

They are more difficult to find because Buffet doesn't plaster his name on everything he invests in.


If net profit exceeds loss by a considerable margin and makes him a lot of money that doesn't matter.


Trump didn't get his father's money all in one go. His father had a net worth of $200 million and we don't know how that was split up among his kids, he only died in 1999.

He'd be worth 7.6 billion based on what? Invested it where? Is this the S&P claim? Should Trump have had psychic abilities in the 80s to invest all of his money (which wouldn't have been $200 million because he didn't have all of his father's money because his father was still alive) into the S&P? The S&P goes up and down. How would he have known it was a good investment?


Nonsense, Buffet is literally the top of the game, if Trump doesn't measure up to Buffet's extraordinary success, that makes him average? How? And remember Trump was more focussed on real estate than Buffet who liked to spread his money around.

I didn't say that he had to measure up to Buffet. Admittedly that is a tall order. But he isn't even in the ballpark. Not even in the same zip code. And the claim by him and people who support him is that he is this amazing business person. These aren't my words, it's theirs.

I wouldn't even be talking about this if the claim wasn't that his business acumen is what qualifies him to be president. If his success to failure rate is anything to judge by, we can expect what?

Here is a story that goes into much more detail. They also tag his worth (which they get from Bloomberg) as 3 Billion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...this-really-basic-advice-hed-be-a-lot-richer/

And this isn't even getting into the rest of his absurdities.