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Trump Blames Obama and DNC for Hack

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I should inform you about the Libyan history, Luis :)

Gaddafi was a Arab socialist of great political capabilities; he asked Italy for the just reparations for colonialism. Then Italy started investing money on Libya, building hospitals. highways. Within few years Italy helped Libya become a prosperous nation and Gaddafi became our solidest economic partner. A treaty in 2008 strengthened this union.
Then Hillary and the French came...he was murdered...Libya was invaded by ISIS terrorists.
Italy has lost huge amounts of money...and still faces a migratory crisis from Libya.

So..yes... foreigners destroyed that country.
[Citation needed]
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2053363,00.html

Btw...it's so satisfying that Italy is trying to convince Trump to lift the sanctions on Russia...the two leaders are meeting...;);)
This is how the rest of the world see it. Leaders not standing up to Putin is either cowardly or insane. The Putin agenda is not the conservative agenfa iit is a fascist dictator agenda. You'll only be happy until your country gets the short end of the stick but countries who care stand up to Putin before its too late. Trump doesnt care but more than half Americans do. US and Russia having 90 percent of the nuclear arsenal under those two insane leaders is not good for anyone.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Obama getting involved would have been meddling, the very thing the government would be wanting to prevent.
If he did indeed believe that Russians were hacking
the DNC for Trump's benefit, then...
- To intentionally do nothing about it, is tacit approval for illegal interference.
- It gave Trump a benefit over Hillary.

Thus, to choose inaction during a campaign when he'd otherwise take
action, has a meddling effect in Trump's favor. This doesn't make sense.
Instead, it would appear to mean that Obama didn't know of the hacking.
 
The African Dinar: Why Hillary had Gaddafi killed

Heads: America started war against country X because they wanted to build an oil pipeline through their country.
Tails: America went to war with country X because country X was just about to stop using Dollars for oil transactions.

Every recent US war has had one of the above, usually both, used to explain why America went to war.

That they turn out not to have been true never seems to prevent them from being recycled by the same people to explain the next war, and the next...
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This may surprise many folks but Trump is blaming the DNC (democtratic national committee) for being not secure and being hacked. Trump also blames Obama for not doing anything about it. He does this as he prepares for his date with Putin.

Trump also says the RNC were secure and m aged not to get hacked so it must be DNCs fault.

Far as I know RNC has been hacked before and the reason Obama did what he did is because he chose not to effect the election, the very thing we were trying to prevent from Russia and our own FBI. Muellers team has found, just like the 17 government and private intelligence agencies during the election, that the hacking came from Russians.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4986713/d...ian-election-hacking-but-doesnt-blame-russia/

Thoughts, objections or rants?

BTW Clinton warned everyone during a debate with Trump when she called him Putin’s puppet. She didn’t do it from being psychic.

I don't know whose fault it is, although hacking seems so ubiquitous these days, it's hard to gauge.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/12/18/technology/biggest-cyberattacks-of-the-year/index.html
https://www.wired.com/story/2017-biggest-hacks-so-far/

It seems that our data is just as vulnerable (if not more so) to our own intelligence agencies as anyone else.

Regarding the indictments: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime," Rosenstein said at a news conference. "There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result."

I don't know what the solution is to all this hacking, as I'm no computer expert. But it seems like allegations of hacking are like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. I don't know if any agency or organization is truly safe from hacking.

As to who's to blame, that's also hard to say. Perhaps it's arrogant computer geeks who think they're much smarter than everyone else and believe that their systems are perfectly safe. I find this attitude to be prevalent whenever I call technical support for anything. There's an automatic, knee-jerk tendency to blame the end user for any problems, because it's never the company's fault that their product doesn't work.

I also get the sense that they're under pressure to release software by deadline, even if it may not be ready and full of bugs. Whenever I'm dealing with any company or organization using computers, it's not uncommon to hear "my system is down" or "my system is running slow," as if this is becoming the normal state of affairs.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This is how the rest of the world see it. Leaders not standing up to Putin is either cowardly or insane.
Italy loves Putin for he is a defender of European Nationalism, and because his goal is to fight and eliminate Middle East terrorism.


The Putin agenda is not the conservative agenda it is a fascist dictator agenda.
Nationalist-Populist Italy is called that way too, right now by some European countries.

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You'll only be happy until your country gets the short end of the stick but countries who care stand up to Putin before its too late. Trump doesnt care but more than half Americans do. US and Russia having 90 percent of the nuclear arsenal under those two insane leaders is not good for anyone.

We just demand sanctions on Russia are lifted. Secondly: if we have strong economic and diplomatic relations with Russia , it's our own business.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Italy loves Putin for he is a defender of European Nationalism, and because his goal is to fight and eliminate Middle East terrorism.
"Italy" does not love Putin, but some Italians who don't know much about history, including recent history that includes Russia's invasions of Crimea, the eastern Ukraine, and Georgia, may love the despot. Then of course there are always going to be those who prefer authoritarian regimes over democratic ones.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
This may surprise many folks but Trump is blaming the DNC (democtratic national committee) for being not secure and being hacked. Trump also blames Obama for not doing anything about it. He does this as he prepares for his date with Putin.

Trump also says the RNC were secure and m aged not to get hacked so it must be DNCs fault.

Far as I know RNC has been hacked before and the reason Obama did what he did is because he chose not to effect the election, the very thing we were trying to prevent from Russia and our own FBI. Muellers team has found, just like the 17 government and private intelligence agencies during the election, that the hacking came from Russians.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4986713/d...ian-election-hacking-but-doesnt-blame-russia/

Thoughts, objections or rants?

BTW Clinton warned everyone during a debate with Trump when she called him Putin’s puppet. She didn’t do it from being psychic.

First, it is unknown whether Russia hacked the RNC. They accomplished their goal with the DNC so I'm not sure why they would bother letting anyone know if they did.

Second, blaming the victim is a common bullying technique. Sure, the DNC could have beefed up security, but it's pretty hard to secure your systems from a hacker with the kind of resources a top tier government sponsored group could have at their disposal.
 
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