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Trump declares himself the "chief law enforcement officer of the United States"

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just be on the look-out for an "Enabling Act" like that passed by the Reichstag in 1933.
Has Trump signed the Enabling Act yet?
It would indeed be odd if he were presented with
such a bill, given that a Democratically controlled
Congress would have originated the bill.

Not every tidbit from Trump is a path to ein
neues Grossdeutschesreich, bruderherz.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Trump declares himself the 'chief law enforcement officer of the United States' and admits he makes AG Barr's job harder

Well, is he? Can he be? Are last norms that make you a democratic republic being torn down so that you can become something the Constitution and its framers never, ever contemplated?

When is America going to actually LOOK AT THIS MAN? When it's too late? Well, maybe -- it's happened before, and history does tell us a lot about who we are, doesn't it?
Yep, and this is what the Holocaust taught us.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The OP's claim is a far far cry from firing up the ovens.
So I advise against going off the deep end with fears of Hitler.
"Those who forget history...."
The point is, that repressive authoritarian or totalitarian regimes commonly evolve from a long series of baby steps, each appearing reasonable and innocuous in itself.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"Those who forget history...."
The point is, that repressive authoritarian or totalitarian regimes commonly evolve from a long series of baby steps, each appearing reasonable and innocuous in itself.
Every time Trump says or does something they don't like, it's always....
"It's just like Hitler!".
They've been saying this ever since the election.
Yet still no sign of invading Poland.
It's the slippery slope fallacy.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Has Trump signed the Enabling Act yet?
It would indeed be odd if he were presented with
such a bill, given that a Democratically controlled
Congress would have originated the bill.

Not every tidbit from Trump is a path to ein
neues Grossdeutschesreich, bruderherz.

I think the Reichstag worked quite a bit differently in 1933 than our Congress operates today. Another key difference was that Hindenburg was still alive, and perhaps some felt that he could contain and rein in Hitler, even with the Enabling Act.

But I don't think Germany was really ready for democracy at that particular time. They had been used to being ruled by a Kaiser previously, so having a strong leader at the top seemed to make sense for them. After Hindenburg died, they seemed ready to take an oath to Hitler. Not to their constitution or the German nation, but an oath to Hitler personally. Then it became obligatory for everyone to greet each other with "Heil Hitler."

Looking back on that, it all seems so absurd and ridiculous. I don't think Americans would take to that. It's just not really a part of our political culture. We can't have a Hitler because we never had a Kaiser.

My view is that if we're going to be evaluating an American politician, it should be in American terms. Trump is not another Hitler, but he might be compared to Nixon...or perhaps Millard Fillmore.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
You think all those people were indicted because Trump was draining the swamp?

Now that is hilarious.
I guess he had to fill the swamp with crooks before he could drain it, right? o_O

Well, he had to know that the swamp was filled with crooks....and guess what? He did. I do believe that he ran on that idea, partly. So yeah, those indictments were about finding the alligators in the swamp, and having those alligators strike back.

Put it this way: a corrupt society isn't going to have the sheriff arresting people. A corrupt society is happy with itself and its denizens. It does not try to get rid of the corrupt.

So if you are going to show me a corrupt society in the midst of being 'cleaned up,' you are going to see a lot of indictments. Only those who don't care about corruption leave things the way they are....without indictments.

So again, your logic leaves a bit to be desired, there.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Well, he had to know that the swamp was filled with crooks....and guess what? He did. I do believe that he ran on that idea, partly. So yeah, those indictments were about finding the alligators in the swamp, and having those alligators strike back.

Put it this way: a corrupt society isn't going to have the sheriff arresting people. A corrupt society is happy with itself and its denizens. It does not try to get rid of the corrupt.

So if you are going to show me a corrupt society in the midst of being 'cleaned up,' you are going to see a lot of indictments. Only those who don't care about corruption leave things the way they are....without indictments.

So again, your logic leaves a bit to be desired, there.
I don't think you read what I said.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I like this part. Another promise kept! MAGA

Back when he was just a reality-TV-star/businessman Trump had, after all, routinely criticized President Barack Obama for golfing, claiming it showed he wasn't working hard. "I'm going to be working for you," Trump said at a rally months before the 2016 election. "I'm not going to have time to go play golf."
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Ye
I don't think you read what I said.
ah, I think I read it.

Your position seems to be that any swamp in need of cleaning would remain in need of cleaning, because the corrupt would stay unmolested.

It can't possibly be that you are of the opinion that there was no corruption at all going on UNTIL Trump arrived. I mean, really....that's a silly thing even for the most die hard leftest to take.

Really. I'm a conservative. Not a Republican, but definitely a conservative. I'm not going to be dumb enough to claim that all one must be in order to be lilly pure and sinless is...to be conservative.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Trump declares himself the 'chief law enforcement officer of the United States' and admits he makes AG Barr's job harder

Well, is he? Can he be? Are last norms that make you a democratic republic being torn down so that you can become something the Constitution and its framers never, ever contemplated?

When is America going to actually LOOK AT THIS MAN? When it's too late? Well, maybe -- it's happened before, and history does tell us a lot about who we are, doesn't it?
He’s the top of the executive branch. So I think his description was accurate. The executive branch is the “law enforcement” branch. Did you know that?
 
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