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Trump delays Puttin meeting

Riders

Well-Known Member
I believe it is in part because Puttin has not accepted . I found this on the net today.

3 reasons why Trump delaying his next Putin meeting is a big deal

From CNN's Jeff Zeleny

The sudden White House decision to delay President Trump's next meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin is a big deal that should not be overlooked by the flood of other news today.

Here's why:

  1. It shows the perils of inviting world leaders via Twitter, without prior agreement, which the White House did last week amid a flurry of criticism over the Helsinki summit. Whether Trump was doubling-down or seeking a do-over, there is wide agreement this was hastily arranged.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
I believe it is in part because Puttin has not accepted . I found this on the net today.

3 reasons why Trump delaying his next Putin meeting is a big deal

From CNN's Jeff Zeleny

The sudden White House decision to delay President Trump's next meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin is a big deal that should not be overlooked by the flood of other news today.

Here's why:

  1. It shows the perils of inviting world leaders via Twitter, without prior agreement, which the White House did last week amid a flurry of criticism over the Helsinki summit. Whether Trump was doubling-down or seeking a do-over, there is wide agreement this was hastily arranged.
Hmm....

John Bolton is the one who announced it for reasons not even close to what CNN says.


"President Trump has delayed a follow-up meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin until after Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election is finished, National Security Adviser John Bolton said Wednesday.

“The president believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year,” Bolton said in a statement."

How CNN got their take out of the announcement leaves a lot to be desired about the truth.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Well maye the reason
Hmm....

John Bolton is the one who announced it for reasons not even close to what CNN says.


"President Trump has delayed a follow-up meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin until after Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election is finished, National Security Adviser John Bolton said Wednesday.

“The president believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year,” Bolton said in a statement."

How CNN got their take out of the announcement leaves a lot to be desired about the truth.


Maybe the reason why Trump wants to wait till the investigation is over the witch hunt as he puts it is because he knows this will make him look bad to Mueller having Puttin over. It might put more suspicion on him and make Mueller look harder.

Either way none of it makes Trump look good, so anyways you spell it even so if CNN is making it look different really does not matter.

I think hes wise not to put anymore ideas in Muellers head.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Hmm....

John Bolton is the one who announced it for reasons not even close to what CNN says.


"President Trump has delayed a follow-up meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin until after Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election is finished, National Security Adviser John Bolton said Wednesday.

“The president believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year,” Bolton said in a statement."

How CNN got their take out of the announcement leaves a lot to be desired about the truth.
I have zero reason to believe Bolton's statement given that this administration lies multiple times a day every day. This is just another lie in the full string of lying. And CNN did indeed report Bolton's statement.

In fact, CNN reported both the Bolton statement and Zeleny's opinion piece https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-today-07-25-18/index.html

The OP was about an opinion piece. Only in the White House and dictatorships does opinion pieces need to reflect the party line which is reflected in the statements of government officials.

3 reasons why Trump delaying his next Putin meeting is a big deal
From CNN's Jeff Zeleny

The sudden White House decision to delay President Trump's next meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin is a big deal that should not be overlooked by the flood of other news today.

Here's why:

  1. It shows the perils of inviting world leaders via Twitter, without prior agreement, which the White House did last week amid a flurry of criticism over the Helsinki summit. Whether Trump was doubling-down or seeking a do-over, there is wide agreement this was hastily arranged.
  2. The decision to delay the invite comes just before Secretary of State Pompeo is set to testify on Capitol Hill, where few (if any) members believe Putin's visit is a good idea.
  3. This is another embarrassing moment for Trump on Russia, the latest in a string of them. After Putin didn’t immediately accept the invitation, it left the White House hanging.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe the reason why Trump wants to wait till the investigation is over the witch hunt as he puts it is because he knows this will make him look bad to Mueller having Puttin over. It might put more suspicion on him and make Mueller look harder.
I think you're giving Trump too much credit and not enough to Mueller. If Trump does have Putin over it won't have any bearing on the investigation.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The OP was about an opinion piece. Only in the White House and dictatorships does opinion pieces need to reflect the party line which is reflected in the statements of government officials.
It's not Fox, so it doesn't matter if it's an opinion or not because it's CNN. "Opinion" only works for those defending the likes of Hannity and O'Reilly.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Well maye the reason



Maybe the reason why Trump wants to wait till the investigation is over the witch hunt as he puts it is because he knows this will make him look bad to Mueller having Puttin over. .
You'd be surprised the amount of evidence they have at this point. When the Trump yells "witch hunt," know that's he's lying. The man has been a liar his entire life. Draft dodger too.

If the FBI has you under investigation, they'll learn every little thing about you. Trump should release his tax returns. Even Reagan did that

Speaking of Reagan, I do get a little chuckle when I hear RW performance artists refer to Trump as Reagan.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
LOL @ fake news
Just another rank fart of propaganda and lies posing as news whose smell will dissipate over time in the vast whirlwinds of purifying chaos.
 
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Hmm....

John Bolton is the one who announced it for reasons not even close to what CNN says.


"President Trump has delayed a follow-up meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin until after Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election is finished, National Security Adviser John Bolton said Wednesday.

“The president believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year,” Bolton said in a statement."

How CNN got their take out of the announcement leaves a lot to be desired about the truth.

Cougarbear: Anyone who believes a word of CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, their associate networks, The NY Times or Washington Post and their associate leftwing newspapers is a fool.
 
Well maye the reason



Maybe the reason why Trump wants to wait till the investigation is over the witch hunt as he puts it is because he knows this will make him look bad to Mueller having Puttin over. It might put more suspicion on him and make Mueller look harder.

Either way none of it makes Trump look good, so anyways you spell it even so if CNN is making it look different really does not matter.

I think hes wise not to put anymore ideas in Muellers head.

Cougarbear: I don't think Trump cares what Mueller things. I think what happened is that Putin didn't want to come over thinking Mueller might have him arrested.
 
You'd be surprised the amount of evidence they have at this point. When the Trump yells "witch hunt," know that's he's lying. The man has been a liar his entire life. Draft dodger too.

Cougarbear: Do you know what their evidence is? No. You don't know anything about what they have or don't have. And, why stating "witch hunt" makes anyone a liar? Obama lied whenever his lips were moving. He's been a liar all his life and so has Hillary. Did Obama go into the military? No.

If the FBI has you under investigation, they'll learn every little thing about you. Trump should release his tax returns. Even Reagan did that

Cougarbear: Why do you want to see his tax returns? Are you jealous and covetness over his wealth? I don't need to see his tax returns. He's done more for this country than Reagan did.

Speaking of Reagan, I do get a little chuckle when I hear RW performance artists refer to Trump as Reagan.

Cougarbear: Why? Trump has even gotten the EU and NATO to pay up their share of the costs. He's started peace talks with NK and Russia. He's gotten rid of more regulations than Reagan did. Liberals don't like him because he beat Hillary.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Cougarbear: Anyone who believes a word of CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, their associate networks, The NY Times or Washington Post and their associate leftwing newspapers is a fool.
I wouldn't say "fool", but it's funny that the left controls so many MSM news outlets, Hollywood, etc. yet the people of this country don't add up to the same statistics. If the left owns so many MSM outlets against Trump (around 10 to 1), how did Trump win and what are they worried about?

The people aren't dumb. If you base your political views on talking heads (or actors), rather than results, to me you are just a naive person with only enough brain cells to pull a lever.

I'm watching Sanders touting all this free stuff, but never where the money comes from. People who vote for him just hear "free". Not that the government will rake 60% of your fruits to make it happen. No matter if you need/use them or not.

Sounds dreamy though. Wayfair has free shipping also. Wonder why everyone doesn't shop there. I got some free CBD oil the other day that only cost me $131 (read fine print). Same with politics.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Cougarbear: Unless Mueller has Putin arrested! Mueller doesn't deserve any credit. He's wasting our money.
Agreed. How can we work on a division of nations towards peace until we work on the division in our own country. The mid terms will determine if Trump continues to deflect the the Dems and continue to outperform them, or if the people desire what the Dems offer, to just stop Trump at all costs.

Personally, I haven't seen much that Trump has done that I would want undone.
 
I wouldn't say "fool", but it's funny that the left controls so many MSM news outlets, Hollywood, etc. yet the people of this country don't add up to the same statistics. If the left owns so many MSM outlets against Trump (around 10 to 1), how did Trump win and what are they worried about?

The people aren't dumb. If you base your political views on talking heads (or actors), rather than results, to me you are just a naive person with only enough brain cells to pull a lever.

I'm watching Sanders touting all this free stuff, but never where the money comes from. People who vote for him just hear "free". Not that the government will rake 60% of your fruits to make it happen. No matter if you need/use them or not.

Sounds dreamy though. Wayfair has free shipping also. Wonder why everyone doesn't shop there. I got some free CBD oil the other day that only cost me $131 (read fine print). Same with politics.

Cougarbear: Well, a lot of people in blue states seem to be dumbed down by the fake news media. Trump won because of a couple of things:
- He paid attention to swing states
- He bogarted the news with his antics
- He wasn’t a politician with smooth speech
- He understood the electoral college system
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Cougarbear: Unless Mueller has Putin arrested! Mueller doesn't deserve any credit. He's wasting our money.
Putin isn't the one under investigation. But illegal communications between Trump's crew and Russia are. And because there have been guilty verdicts, it doesn't seem this has been a waist of money.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Cougarbear: Well, a lot of people in blue states seem to be dumbed down by the fake news media. Trump won because of a couple of things:
- He paid attention to swing states
- He bogarted the news with his antics
- He wasn’t a politician with smooth speech
- He understood the electoral college system
Yep. He saw it as a challenge and hit it like a businessman, rather than "politics as usual". I saw that as the 14 Republican contenders started falling off one by one in the primaries. So he called them names. Boo Hoo. And the "politics as usual" crowd continue to do the same old thing for this mid term. Some people never learn.

One reason Trump is attacked so much is that he is transparent, almost on a daily basis. He connects in many weekly or bi monthly events where he speaks to the crowds of people. The MSM attacks him so much because he is out there so much.

Unlike Obama and other past Presidents who blessed the stage every other month (if that much). Transparency is a double edged sword other Presidents were afraid of.

He only talks with Fox. Shame, but I can see why.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
What guilty verdicts?
Bunch of them. Watch the news sometime. RW media leaves a lot of information out on purpose.

Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos have pleaded guilty to making false statements about their contacts with Russians to investigators. Paul Manafort and Rick Gates were hit with tax, money laundering and other charges that relate to their work for the government of Ukraine and a Russia-affiliated Ukrainian political party — and Gates cut a plea deal in exchange for most of the charges against him being dropped.
 
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