If we accept that as the founders' intention & the current reality,
then we won't be disappointed when things play out as they will.
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Trump impeachment,would witnesses have made a difference?
- Thread starter England my lionheart
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then we won't be disappointed when things play out as they will.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Disappointed? Nah. One can only be disappointed if one expects better. Disgusted? Yeah, because I should be able to expect better.
Y'know the only person in the whole thing I respect at the moment?
Believe it or not, because I completely disagree with what he did and wish he hadn't.....Mitt Romney. Not for what he did--it was absolutely the wrong thing--but because he stuck by his personal 'guns' and did it. He has sunk his political future and he knows it. I wouldn't vote for him or support him at the moment, but he took quite a personal risk because he stuck by his personal opinions. Gotta respect that, if nothing else.
Yep. That’s the definition and it didn’t happen.
Didn’t even vote for him as I’ve pointed out before. As a moderate, I find the far left’s blind hatred of Trump troubling. It’s be nice if the House actually did some legislating.
Zero risk to Mormon-friendly Romney in Utah. He’s a media whore who craves the spotlight and flips and flops to get people to say his name.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You do not appear to be a moderate. The House has legislated. They have other duties as well. This was one of them.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
Yes it did. Making claims without any supporting arguments is fun!
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Thank you for proving my point. The left likes him now, but they won't in a week...or a couple of days. You don't. I don't agree with his politics, and I LIKE him, personally.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
I don’t agree with all of his policies but I also like him. I did not vote for him in 2012 but I never disliked him as a person, or questioned his integrity (no more so than the usual exaggerations and rhetoric of most politicians).
I think it’s pretty odd that Watchman used the phrase “publicity whore” and it was about Mitt Romney, and not the orange made-for-TV troll in the White House.
Appearances can be deceiving. If you’re up to it, send me a link to the political survey of your choice. I’ll complete it and share the results, which I expect will show I am a right-leaning moderate.
Already explained. Wink!Yes it did. Making claims without any supporting arguments is fun!
Mr Spinkles
Mr
I must have missed it. Which post?
What point did I prove? I voted for Romney back in the day, but he’s been revealed to be a flip flopping, insecure, attention seeking, play it safe in Mormonland, media whore since then.
The ones where others and I explain there were many witnesses who testified in the House, the Dems didn’t properly investigate, this is akin to summary judgment and so on. Wink!
Mr Spinkles
Mr
Ok I clearly missed those. Perhaps you were replying to someone else, not me, and I skipped over it.
You are of course correct there were witnesses who testified in the House. No thanks to the Trump Party - the witnesses who testified did so in defiance of the Trump Party Leader’s order to obstruct the inquiry. And the inquiry itself was voted against by I believe every (almost) Trump Party House representative. And witnesses were voted against by the overwhelming majority of Trump Party Senators.
It’s a bit misleading to say the Trump Party wasn’t covering it up because there were witnesses, when they did virtually everything in their power to prevent witnesses. It was a sloppy and only slightly successful cover up - that’s true.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
If a person knows how he wants to present himself those can be easily faked. I have to judge from the posts here.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I think that's one of the likely scenarios to give Trump the White House this year but give Congress to the Dems. No witnesses basically says the Reps don't even care about pretending to look impartial, and they're going to likely be able to campaign on it.
Ok. Will if you look at my posts you will see many moderate positions, including advocating for Biden to join the presidential race several months ago, and so on. Cheers.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Democratic senators tweet photos of pile of House-passed bills 'dead on Mitch McConnell's desk'
The House-passed bills that have ended up in the Senate 'graveyard'
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Nearly halfway through the year, Congress has only passed 17 laws
Here's the House gun control legislation Mitch McConnell refuses to take up in the Senate after the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Nah. It was never gunna amount to anything. The whole thing was a pretty hollow exercise on the Dem's part. I'm not sure whether to be sorry for or bemused by all the terribly earnest "Impeach!" types who really thought anything would come of it. The Dems only credible shot at ousting Trump has always been the 2020 election, and they seem pretty desperate to repeat the same mistakes as last time and lose that, so, you know, here we are...