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Trump is our new president.

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
It took an Obama to undo what Bush and others had done.

Why do you want Trump to undo what Obama has done !
Because in my opinion I never liked Obama and I thought he was a terrible president. Obamacare has screwed up those who don't have it. Those who don't have it pay more for their healthcare and that money that they pay more for is the money who have Obamacare so they don't have to pay a lot of for their healthcare. So basically those who don't have Obamacare are actually paying for other peoples healthcare which is unfair.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Because in my opinion I never liked Obama and I thought he was a terrible president. Obamacare has screwed up those who don't have it. Those who don't have it pay more for their healthcare and that money that they pay more for is the money who have Obamacare so they don't have to pay a lot of for their healthcare. So basically those who don't have Obamacare are actually paying for other peoples healthcare which is unfair.
The health insurance companies did that, not the government.
 

ScottySatan

Well-Known Member
So basically those who don't have Obamacare are actually paying for other peoples healthcare which is unfair.

You already had been paying for them. You were paying for people who went to the ED for all their healthcare and couldn't subsequently pay for themselves. Except with the ACA, people could go for checkups, preventative care, and have much lower medical bills because they didn't have to wait until their problem was very severe.
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
You already had been paying for them. You were paying for people who went to the ED for all their healthcare and couldn't subsequently pay for themselves. Except with the ACA, people could go for checkups, preventative care, and have much lower medical bills because they didn't have to wait until their problem was very severe.
People should pay for their own things. Just saying.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It is an opportunity, because the world is watching. Even though our president is unpopular in much of the world its an opportunity to more strongly prove that freedom is still the best choice, and if our republic struggles it is encouragement to other republics. That's one positive side.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
People should pay for their own things. Just saying.

So if you have a million dollar heart transplant or lengthy cancer treatment, you should have to pay for it yourself or just die???? You don't seem to understand how health care works, people with few medical costs always pay for the people that have very high costs, even convention health insurance is socialized that way.
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
So if you have a million dollar heart transplant or lengthy cancer treatment, you should have to pay for it yourself or just die???? You don't seem to understand how health care works, people with few medical costs always pay for the people that have very high costs, even convention health insurance is socialized that way.
Nobody cared to help my husband and I when we had to spend $8,000 for hospital bills when I had to be in the hospital for a week when I had my daughter. He even made a gofundme account and nobody donated anything. I had to get a csection before the platelet levels went back to being low. I had thrombocytopenia during the pregnancy.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Nobody cared to help my husband and I when we had to spend $8,000 for hospital bills when I had to be in the hospital for a week when I had my daughter. He even made a gofundme account and nobody donated anything. I had to get a csection before the platelet levels went back to being low. I had thrombocytopenia during the pregnancy.
And what we're trying to say is that no one should have to go through that.
 
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